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John E Marble Sr Posted on Feb 09, 2015
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If starter relay is not working, will the rest of the car still be eclectrfried

After starting the engine, and driving for a while, and shut it down, the engine will not start. No click from the starter. It is like the car is dead. If I wait a few hours, it will then start. Question is why won't it start. Has new battery.

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Not Sure I know what your asking . But yes the rest of the vehicle's electrical system should work.

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