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Could a vacuum leak cause right bank #1and bank 2 to run lean?

I am going thru so much gas ,like 4 miles to the gallon,but runs great.sprayed brake cleaner all around lines no results for leaks.Pulled plugs and rfine.Pulled one wire at a time and all r good?

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Running lean indicates too much air (like a vacuum line leak or an intake manifold leak) or not enough gas (like low fuel pressure or clogged injectors)

I would check the fuel pressure. Autozone and others will loan or rent fuel pressure testers. If fuel pressure is correct, purchase a vacuum gauge for about $15-$20, and hook it to a manifold vacuum tap. If your vacuum reading at idle is less than 17-22 inches vacuum and steady, then you have a vacuum leak. It is a great diagnostic tool-tells you quick if there is an air leak somewhere. Here is a link about using a vacuum gauge:
http://www.secondchancegarage.com/public/186.cfm

If you vacuum reading is good, check the injectors.

  • montehammons Jan 29, 2015

    um, wait a minute. running lean and using lots of gas?? Was that a code you got? A scanner could see the oxygen sensor readings and verify the air fuel mixture. No substitute to really see the engine management at work than a scan tool that supports live streaming data from the sensors and switches. Barring that, verify the engine's mechanical condition with a vacuum gauge or a compression tester...and then you start throwing new parts, mostly sensors, at it, hoping you can quickly find the problem, cause it is expensive. I know.

  • montehammons Jan 29, 2015

    I'm long retired, 5 years!, an old hound at do it yourself gear wrenching, lot of cars, farm trucks and machinery, in between stints of steady and not so steady employment. Viet nam era veteran, usaf, (I detest republicans and democrats who sell out.) Ever known a socialist before? Native americans practice to this day a communal identity-that's about as close as you can find to socialism. I believe in socialism. what better for the good of all? Not capitalism, crony capitalism, or whatever they describe our corrupted....so and so. We are becoming enslaved by the richest few of the rich. but to get back to cars and trucks, while oil is cheap, you have a real problem with 4 miles to the gallon. learn all you can about engines and how computers control them. wel good luck.

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Why poor fuel mileage and hard starting

Sounds like you have a vacuum leak. Although, it could be bad o2 sensors. If the computer sees that the o2 sensors are showing lean then it will increase fuel flow to try to even out, which causes it to burn more gas.
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2000 chevy silverado p0171 ; p0174; p0300

Sounds like you have a serious vacum leak.; DTC 0174 and 0174 are lean conditions on bank 1 and bank 2, 0300 is random misfire. The only thing I can think of is a big vacum leak like the brake booster / vac line leaking, or maybe the intake manifold is cracked ... even a stuck-open EGR doesn't normally lean a motor that much. Start by checking for a vacum leak, if the motor will idle you can spray a little WD-40 around ports and lines >> if the idle speeds up or becomes smooth you on the right track in the area you judt sprayed.
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98 Expedition..5.4L 4WD..coded bank 1 bank 2....O2 sensors..LEAN....replaced both..no change..still same codes..now it won't stay running. Tried to code again..won't run long enough to get a c

Really sounds like a vacuum leak. Lean code could still be accurate. Screaming idle usually means air is getting into engine. Ruptured EGR diaphragm would vent air. Brake booster could vent air. A lot of air will show lean mix.

You may have to use different methods to test vacuum. Some use vacuum gauge to test egr and lines which dead end into solenoids. Other tests use water spray or propane gas to draw in and change rpm. You are at a disadvantage if engine does not run.

Crankshaft sensor helps set fuel volume for given rpm. Might not be counting all the rpm's, but would not account for fast idle.
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Running lean on bank 1 and bank 2 codes 171 174 runs great when codes are off once they come on loss of power not much but you can feel it

P0171 - System Too Lean (Bank 1)

Basically this means that an oxygen sensor in bank 1 detected a lean condition (too much oxygen in the exhaust). On V6/V8/V10 engines, Bank 1 is the side of the engine that has cylinder #1.

Note: This DTC is very similar to P0174, and in fact your vehicle may show both codes at the same time.

Symptoms: You will more than likely not notice any drivability problems, although there may be symptoms such as a lack of power, detonation (spark knock), and/or a hesitation/surge on acceleration.


Causes: A code P0171 may mean that one or more of the following has happened:
* The MAF (Mass Air Flow) Sensor is dirty or faulty. Note: The use of "oiled" air filters may cause the MAF to become dirty if the filter is over-oiled. There is also an issue with some vehicles where the MAF sensors leak the silicone potting material used to protect the circuitry.
* There could be a vacuum leak downstream of the MAF sensor.


Possible solutions include:
* In the vast majority of cases, simply cleaning the MAF sensor does the trick. Consult your service manual for it's location if you need help. I find it's best to take it off and spray it with electronics cleaner or brake cleaner. Make sure you are careful not to damage the MAF sensor, and make sure it's dry before reinstalling
* Inspect all vacuum and PCV hoses, replace if necessary
* Check for a dirty fuel filter and proper fuel pressure


Hope helps.
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Codes po171 and po174 0n a 2002 ford windstar\

It sounds like you running lean; too much air, not enough gas.
Go to these links to get some additional information:
http://www.obd-codes.com/p0171
http://www.obd-codes.com/p0174


  • P0171 System too Lean (Bank 1)
  • P0174 System too Lean (Bank 2)

    • The MAF (Mass Air Flow) Sensor is dirty or faulty. Note: The use of "oiled" air filtersmag-glass_10x10.gif can cause the MAF to become dirty if the filter is over-oiled. There is also an issue with some vehicles where the MAF sensors leak the silicone potting material used to protect the circuitry.
    • There could be a vacuum leak downstream of the MAF sensor.
    Possible Solutions

    Possible solutions include:

    • In the vast majority of cases, simply cleaning the MAF sensor does the trick. Consult your service manual for it's location if you need help. I find it's best to take it off and spray it with electronics cleaner or brake cleaner. Make sure you are careful not to damage the MAF sensor, and make sure it's dry before reinstalling
    • Inspect all vacuum and PCV hoses, replace if necessary
    • Check for a dirty fuel filter and proper fuel pressuremag-glass_10x10.gif
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    Getting a too lean on bank one service engine code. We have replaced spark plugs, wires. one of the coils. The car has 109,000 miles and has been using a little oil. I have to put about 1 quart after...

    Lean codes are caused by the engine running lean. What this means is that there is too much air and not enough fuel. There are several things that can cause this. The most likely causes would be a clogged-up fuel filter, a weak fuel pump, a broken or leaking vacuum hose, a leaking vacuum brake booster, a torn air intake "snorkel" that is torn between the Mass Airflow Sensor (MAF) and the Throttle Body, or a bad MAF Sensor. An intake manifold leak can also cause this but it is pretty rare on your car.
    With the mileage on your vehicle, I would replace the fuel filter just because it probably needs it anyway. (They are supposed to be changed every 30,000 miles) Then, if you don't find anything wrong with the vacuum hoses or the intake snorkel, I would say that the most probable cause would be a defective MAF Sensor.
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    Engine light is on replaced oxygen sensors ,comp comes up bank 2 sensor one also says burning lean,

    Try using brake parts cleaner and spraying around all vacuum lines on the engine and firewall, and spraying around the intake manifold gasket. You may have a vacuum leak or low fuel pressure causing it to run lean. An obvious leak will change the rpm's of the motor.
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