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Anonymous Posted on Jul 11, 2014

HOW CAN I CLOSE MY ROOF MANUALY ROOF WILL NOT CLOSE BUT YOU CAN HEAR MOTOR STARTING TO WORK SO THERE MUST BE POWER GOING TO IT

THE SWITCH LIGHTS UP AS NORMAL MOTOR RUNS THEN STOPS& LIGHT GOES OUT ON SWITCH HOW CAN I CLOSE THE ROOF

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  • Posted on Aug 16, 2009

SOURCE: top won't go down, sometines it won't go up

This symptom almost always points to a mechanical issue, not an electrical one. The SLK hardtop is notorious for needing to be lubricated every couple of years. Here is a link with directions and photos:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r170-slk-class/1426014-lubing-vario-roof-pics-1-krytox.html

Sticking joints are the most common culprit to intermittent raising and lowering problems. Once those have been lubricated and that has been checked off the list, then look into electrical issues. Remember, you don't rebuild an engine that has only ran out of gas. The switch that is triggered by pulling back the partition separator is likely not the issue. If this switch is faulty, it will not even let the pump run to open the trunk. In order for that switch to be the problem, the switch would need to be shorting out AFTER the trunk lid opens. But that still also means the pump would be stopped and no longer be heard.

Mark Andrews

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Aug 16, 2009

SOURCE: my 1999 slk's roof wont go down it gets as far as

This symptom almost always points to a mechanical issue, not an electrical one. The SLK hardtop is notorious for needing to be lubricated every couple of years. Here is a link with directions and photos:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r170-slk-class/1426014-lubing-vario-roof-pics-1-krytox.html

Sticking joints are the most common culprit to intermittent raising and lowering problems. Once those have been lubricated and that has been checked off the list, then consider looking into electrical issues.

The moisture from the rain may be helping to lubricate these joints and that might be why it works fine in the rain...

Mark Andrews

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Visual Inspection Chart Mechanical Electrical
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  • Opening shield
  • Roof panel frame
  • Opening shield guide feet
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  • Check the roof opening panel lifter assemblies for obstructions and damage.
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  • Check the water roof opening panel water trough and rear trough guides for any loose obstructions.
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Yes
GO to E3 .

No
REMOVE all obstructions from the roof opening panel water trough and install securely. SECURE the rear trough guides or INSTALL new roof opening panel rear trough guides if damaged. REFER to Roof Opening Panel Rear Trough Guide in this section. TEST the system for normal operation. E3 VERIFY THE ROOF OPENING PANEL ADJUSTMENT
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No
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Yes
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No
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  • Power window relay
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When the roof sliding panel switch is activated, a gear on the sliding roof panel motor drives a spline on the roof sliding panel housing. Within the roof sliding panel housing, the spline is connected to two sliding roof panel cables which cause the roof sliding panel slide links to slide and the roof glass panel to open or to close. The sliding roof panel cables and the spline are part of the roof sliding panel housing. Neither the sliding roof panel motor nor the roof sliding panel housing can be disassembled. If a malfunction is detected with either of these assemblies, the assembly must be replaced.
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VISUAL INSPECTION CHART Mechanical Electrical
  • Damaged sliding roof panel
  • Sliding roof panel height adjustment
  • Sliding roof panel fore and aft adjustment
  • Blown fuse(s):
    • 30A PWR WDW
  • Damaged circuit breaker #1
  • Damaged wiring harness
  • Loose or corroded connections

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  • Sliding Roof Panel Does Not Open or Close
  • Fuses.
  • Circuit breaker #2.
  • Power window relay.
  • Sliding roof panel motor.
  • Roof sliding panel switch.
  • Circuit.
  • GO to Pinpoint Test E1 .
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  • Sliding roof panel motor.


Switch Removal
  1. Disconnect the battery ground cable (14301).
  1. Gently pry the overhead console from the headliner.
  1. Disconnect the sliding roof panel electrical connector from the overhead console.
  1. Disconnect the rear quarter window switch electrical connector from the overhead console, if equipped.
  1. Disconnect the map lamp electrical connector from the overhead console.
  1. Remove the overhead console.
  1. Remove the two roof sliding panel switch screws and the roof sliding panel switch (15B691).
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Motor Removal
  1. Place the roof glass panel (50054) in the closed position.
  1. Remove the roof headlining (51916). Refer to Section 01-05 for the removal procedure.
  1. Remove the two sliding roof panel relays from their brackets.




  1. Disconnect the two sliding roof panel motor electrical connectors.
  1. Remove the two sliding roof panel motor screws and the sliding roof panel motor (15790
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  • Opening shield
  • Roof panel frame
  • Opening shield guide feet
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  • Battery junction box Fuse 4 (30A) maxifuse
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