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Symptoms of a bad tps

How you know if throttle sensor is bad

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Old post. but....
a great question, but on a tracker , the TPS , has 2 parts inside
cascaded as one part. so that makes answers harder.
the tests are here.
http://www.fixkick.com/sensors/tests/TPS-testing.html

  1. idle switch bad, means, idle never regulates.
  2. end idle side.
  3. throttle angle side, is complex. (as seen in scan tool)
  4. it detects drivers fast right foot actions and enriches fuel this prevents the hesitation, when you accelerate. if bad it does just that. but does still have full power up hills (after small hesitation) due to the MAF sensor seeing reality and correcting the TPS (errors) see?
  5. the TPS also triggers. cut fuel mode when you decelerate,
  6. and triggers cut off of EGR and .
  7. and triggers , anti snap your next mode , when you decelerate too fast it adds air via the ISC to prevent violent Deceleration.
  8. I told you it was complex the FSM book from Suzuki and GEO both stated all that. on the TPS page.

get the Factory Service manual, real, and see those pages.

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just cleaning the throttle plate can do wonder.
all cars.
do so key off, or battery minus lug disconnected (per FSM rules)
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What does that mean?


The Throttle position sensor is a potentiometer that measures the amount of throttle opening. As the throttle is opened, the reading (measured in volts) goes up. The powertrain control module (PCM) supplies a 5 Volt reference signal to the throttle position sensor (TPS) and usually a ground also. A general measurement is: at idle = .5 Volts; full throttle = 4.5 Volts. If the PCM detects that the throttle angle is greater or less than it should be for a specific RPM, it will set this code.


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No start
Causes


A code P0121 may mean that one or more of the following has happened:


TPS has intermittent open or short internally
Harness is rubbing and causing an open or short in the wiring
Bad connection at the TPS
Bad PCM (less likely)
Water or corrosion in connector or sensor
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1. If you have access to a scan tool, see what the idle and WOT (wide open throttle) readings are for the TPS. Check if they're close to the specifications mentioned above. If not, then replace the TPS and re-check.


2. Check for an intermittent open or short in the TPS signal. To do that, you can't use a scan tool. You'll need an oscilliscope. The reason is because scan tools take samplings of many different readings over just one or two data lines and can miss an intermittent drop out. Hook up your oscilliscope and watch the signal. It should sweep up and down smoothly with no drop outs or spikes.


3. If no problems were noticed, perform a wiggle test. Do this by wiggling the connector and harness while watching the pattern. Does it drop out? If so, replace TPS and re-check.


4. If you have no TPS signal, check for 5 Volt reference at the connector. If it's present, check the ground circuit for open or shorts.


5. Make sure the signal circuit isn't 12V. It should never have battery voltage. If it does, trace circuit for short to voltage and repair.


6. Look for any water in the connector and replace TPS as necessary.
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The Throttle position sensor is a potentiometer that measures the amount of throttle opening. As the throttle is opened, the reading (measured in volts) goes up. The powertrain control module (PCM) supplies a 5 Volt reference signal to the throttle position sensor (TPS) and usually a ground also. A general measurement is: at idle = .5 Volts; full throttle = 4.5 Volts. If the PCM detects that the throttle angle is greater or less than it should be for a specific RPM, it will set this code.


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2. Check for an intermittent open or short in the TPS signal. To do that, you can't use a scan tool. You'll need an oscilliscope. The reason is because scan tools take samplings of many different readings over just one or two data lines and can miss an intermittent drop out. Hook up your oscilliscope and watch the signal. It should sweep up and down smoothly with no drop outs or spikes.

3. If no problems were noticed, perform a wiggle test. Do this by wiggling the connector and harness while watching the pattern. Does it drop out? If so, replace TPS and re-check.

4. If you have no TPS signal, check for 5 Volt reference at the connector. If it's present, check the ground circuit for open or shorts.

5. Make sure the signal circuit isn't 12V. It should never have battery voltage. If it does, trace circuit for short to voltage and repair.

6. Look for any water in the connector and replace TPS as necessary.


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If there are no symptoms, the simplest thing to do is to reset the code and see if it comes back.

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P0121 generic throttle/pedal position sensor a circuit range/ performance

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2. Check for an intermittent open or short in the TPS signal. To do that, you can't use a scan tool. You'll need an oscilliscope. The reason is because scan tools take samplings of many different readings over just one or two data lines and can miss an intermittent drop out. Hook up your oscilliscope and watch the signal. It should sweep up and down smoothly with no drop outs or spikes.
3. If no problems were noticed, perform a wiggle test. Do this by wiggling the connector and harness while watching the pattern. Does it drop out? If so, replace TPS and re-check.
4. If you have no TPS signal, check for 5 Volt reference at the connector. If it's present, check the ground circuit for open or shorts.
5. Make sure the signal circuit isn't 12V. It should never have battery voltage. If it does, trace circuit for short to voltage and repair.
6. Look for any water in the connector and replace TPS as necessary.

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What does that mean? The Throttle position sensor is a potentiometer that measures the amount of throttle opening. As the throttle is opened, the reading (measured in volts) goes up. The powertrain control module (PCM) supplies a 5 Volt reference signal to the throttle position sensor (TPS) and usually a ground also. A general measurement is: at idle = .5 Volts; full throttle = 4.5 Volts. If the PCM detects that the throttle angle is greater or less than it should be for a specific RPM, it will set this code.
FB.init("dd7d9e9681341cde77587bc6a2029f6f"); OBD-Codes.com on Facebookcopyscape.gif Potential Symptoms Symptoms of a P0121 trouble code could include:
  • Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) illumination (Check Engine Light or Service Engine Soon light)
  • Intermittent stumble on acceleration or deceleration
  • Blows black smoke on acceleration
  • No start
Causes A code P0121 may mean that one or more of the following has happened:
  • TPS has intermittent open or short internally
  • Harness is rubbing and causing an open or short in the wiring
  • Bad connection at the TPS
  • Bad PCM (less likely)
  • Water or corrosion in connector or sensor
Possible Solutions 1. If you have access to a scan tool, see what the idle and WOT (wide open throttle) readings are for the TPS. Check if they're close to the specifications mentioned above. If not, then replace the TPS and re-check.
2. Check for an intermittent open or short in the TPS signal. To do that, you can't use a scan tool. You'll need an oscilliscope. The reason is because scan tools take samplings of many different readings over just one or two data lines and can miss an intermittent drop out. Hook up your oscilliscope and watch the signal. It should sweep up and down smoothly with no drop outs or spikes.
3. If no problems were noticed, perform a wiggle test. Do this by wiggling the connector and harness while watching the pattern. Does it drop out? If so, replace TPS and re-check.
4. If you have no TPS signal, check for 5 Volt reference at the connector. If it's present, check the ground circuit for open or shorts.
5. Make sure the signal circuit isn't 12V. It should never have battery voltage. If it does, trace circuit for short to voltage and repair.
6. Look for any water in the connector and replace TPS as necessary
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