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Anonymous Posted on May 24, 2017

My power third row seat don't work, I tested the motors and they work fine when power directly. When I measure the voltage at the connectors I get about +/- 10 volts, from any of the 4 switches. I verified the ground and it seams fine, I disconnected it and used a jumper cable from the ground directly to the battery ground, same result. Is there a different ground then G404 that I am not seing? Both seats go up and down smoothly when powered directly, I don't know what to look at next, any ideas?

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Your missing something's G-404 has nothing to do with it !
Seats - Third Row
The third row seat:

  • is three-passenger seat.
  • a 60/40 bench seat.
  • folds down for more cargo area.
  • has optional power fold down seats.
Third Row Power-Fold Seat
CAUTION: To prevent possible damage to the third row seat or the safety belts, make sure that the safety belts are not fastened when moving the seat to the load floor position.
CAUTION: Make sure that no objects such as books, purses or briefcases are on the floor in front of the third row seats or on the seat cushion before lowering the backrest(s).
The third row power-fold seat consists of the following electrical components:
  • right third row seat relay.
  • left third row seat relay.
  • right power-fold seat motor.
  • left power-fold seat motor.
  • right front third row seat switch (if equipped).
  • left front third row seat switch (if equipped).
  • right rear third row seat switch.
  • left rear third row seat switch.
For the third row power-fold seat to operate, a shared ground is supplied by the body security module (BSM) to both of the power-fold seat relays, enabling the seats to then be moved by pressing one of the third row power-fold seat switches. The third row power-fold seat operates only when the vehicle is in PARK and the liftgate glass, liftgate door or any entry door must be open.
The third row power-fold seat motors transfer movement to a drive gear assembly to raise and lower the seat backrest. The power-fold seat motors rotate a short drive cable which is connected to the drive gear assembly.
The relay's are located in Aux. relay box #2

  • bishop43 Jul 10, 2022

    Where is the left third row seat relay?

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  • Posted on May 26, 2011

SOURCE: I have a 2003 Ford expedition Eddie bauer. Seat

The clicking noise sounds like your blend door actuator. Try turning your AC/Heat OFF and see if it stops (give it a minute to travel in position). The actuator is a common failure in the Expys, costs about $50 to replace. You will have to remove the right rear panel to replace it - a few screws and a couple of bolts (where the seat belt attaches).
As for the seat not working, not sure about this. I would make sure the wiring harness is hooked up and the fuse is not blown. See your owners manual for fuse location.

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  • Posted on Sep 19, 2012

SOURCE: My power single seat in the third row of my 2003 ford expediton won't fold down. I can hear the motor going. Is there a way of releasing manually so it will fold down?

mechanism lower seat driven by electric motor is broken.

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