Sun Roof mis operation

The roof opening panel is an electronically operated panel that can be opened or closed by the roof opening panel switch. Actuating the switch in either a forward or rearward motion supplies a ground to the roof opening panel motor. The vent and soft-stop functions are controlled by the roof opening panel motor. These positions are obtained when an internal motor cam opens the roof position switch, removing the ground from the switch. The roof opening panel has an express open feature activated when the switch is pressed momentarily. The roof opening panel is closed by continuous activation of the switch until the sunroof stops movement. This function is controlled by the roof opening panel motor.

Visual Inspection Chart Mechanical Electrical

• Roof opening panel
• Opening shield
• Roof panel frame
• Opening shield guide feet

• Central junction box (CJB) fuses:
  • 2 (20A)
  • 29 (5A)
• Battery junction box (BJB) fuse 1 (60A)
• Accessory delay relay
• Roof opening panel control switch
• Circuitry
• Roof opening panel motor

• The roof opening panel does not open or close

• Central junction box (CJB) fuse:
  • 2 (20A).
  • 29 (5A).
• Battery junction box (BJB) fuse 1 (60A).
• Circuitry.
• Roof opening panel control switch.
• Roof opening panel motor.

• Go To Pinpoint Test E .

Do the power windows and power locks work ?

E6 CHECK VOLTAGE TO THE ROOF OPENING PANEL MOTOR - CIRCUITS 400 (LB/BK) AND 1173 (BN/OG)

• Key in OFF position.
• Disconnect: Roof Opening Panel Motor C920.
• Key in ON position.
• NOTE: Activate accessory delay relay for this check.
• Measure the voltage between roof opening panel motor C920-4, circuit 400 (LB/BK), and ground; and between roof opening panel motor C920-7, circuit 1173 (BN/OG), and ground.
• Are the voltages greater than 10 volts?

Yes
GO to E7 .

No
REPAIR circuit 400 (LB/BK) or circuit 1173 (BN/OG). TEST the system for normal operation. If you can't do electrical testing , there is a manual way to close it .
Roof Opening Panel Manual Operation

1. Remove the overhead console. For additional information, refer to Overhead Console in this section.

1. Insert a hex-head screwdriver in the center of the manual drive slot to depress the release pin. Rotate the screwdriver clockwise until the roof opening panel is closed.

lost operators, manual.
sun roof, can be 3 things
fuse
jammed
motor. dead.
3 fuse boxes (iml looking on online fsm)
fuse box 3 contains, fuse 32 and 45.
fuse 32 runs , "IG2-SIG-15a)
roof, and
quote:
Radiator fan relay #1
Radiator fan relay #2
Radiator fan relay #3
A/C compressor relay
Seat heater switch (Driver side)
Seat heater switch (Passenger side)
Sliding roof unit
Blower motor relay
unqout

id bet it is not the fuse. see why? the blower, would be dead.
fuse 45: all is only S/R that is the label too.

this box is long and skinny
with 3 relays on left
and
2 fuse top
11 fuses, in horz middle.
10 fuses on bottom row. fuse 29 bottom right.
fuse 39 center right
and top 2 are 51 and 50 , left to right

Hi.
I was having trouble with my sun roof on a 2004 Montecarlo. I had two issues water coming in and would not operate fully. I could toggle the switch and it would not move very far. this is what I found. I started to pull down the lining and saw that the motor was in front of the sun roof.
I found the drain lines on the front side corners of the tray around the inside of the sun roof. I found that the tube ran down the pillar's and out between the door hinge's. I took them off and blow them out one was plugged up. That fixed the water problem. The roof would move with help from me pushing. I got it opened and noticed the grease was hard. I cleaned up the grease and removed most of it with WD40.
Now the sun roof works good as new.
I thought the water problem was because the roof was not fully closed but I guess it is designed to have water pass by the roof seal and have it drain away. I always noticed water under the car after a rain or a car wash but did not realize iit was the sun roof draining.

Hi

Inspect the sun roof of your Pontiac Bonneville to make sure it's seated evenly on your vehicle, not raising or lifting at one corner. Lifting indicates the presence of debris on the tracks, or a damaged seal around the sun roof.

Remove the trim on the interior of your Pontiac Bonneville and allow the interior material to drop. Use compressed air to blow dust and debris from the tracks that move your sun roof. Treat the tracks using 3-In-One Lubricant.

Check the Pontiac Bonneville's drain tubes for clogging. Two of these run down the front of your vehicle to the bumpers. Two run to the back, most often by your tail lights. Clear the tubes using compressed air and replace them.

Clean the sun roof's rubber seal with a damp, lint-free cloth. Inspect the seal as you clean

Please get back to us if you have further query else please accept the suggestion.
Thank you for contacting fixya.com

CHECK SUN ROOF FUSE.IF GOOD CHECK FOR POWER AT SUN ROOF SWITCH.IF YES SUN ROOF MOTORS WIRES COULD BE LOOSE OR BROKEN OR SUNROOF MOTOR FAULTY.

Temporary Fix: unsnap off the access door in the overhead ceiling liner behind the sunroof opening;
Use a 4mm hexagon Allen wrench to wind it closed.

Section 01-17: Roof Panel, Sliding—Electric 1996 Taurus, Sable Workshop Manual DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION Electric Operation The sliding roof panel (502B98):

• is available as an option.
• is electrically operated through the accessory delay relay (controlled by generic electronic module (GEM)).
• is of self-storing design.
• requires a specific headliner.
• utilizes a unique roof console and dome lamp.
• has an air deflector.

The electrical system operates in the following manner:

• Two switches control movement of the roof panel.
• When the SLIDE roof sliding panel switch (15B691) is rocked rearward, the roof sliding outer glass panel (502A82) slides into the storage space between the roof trim panel (51968) and the roof panel, exposing an opening over the front seats.
• When the SLIDE roof sliding panel switch is rocked forward with the roof sliding outer glass panel fully back in the storage space, the roof sliding outer glass panel moves forward from the storage position.
• The rear portion of the roof sliding outer glass panel moves upward on two lifter arms near the end of the forward travel, allowing a weather-tight seal when the roof sliding outer glass panel is closed.
• An AUTO feature allows the SLIDE roof sliding panel switch to be touched momentarily to cause the roof panel to automatically move to the fully open position.
• When the TILT roof sliding panel switch is rocked forward with the roof sliding outer glass panel fully forward, the rear of the roof sliding outer glass panel pops up to the VENT position.
• With the roof sliding outer glass panel in the VENT position, rocking the TILT roof sliding panel switch rearward closes the roof sliding outer glass panel.

--------------------------------------

• Sliding Roof Panel Does Not Open or Close

• Open power feed fuse.
• Circuitry open/shorted.
• Damaged roof sliding panel switch.
• Damaged sliding roof panel motor.

VISUAL INSPECTION CHART Mechanical Electrical

• Damaged roof panel
• Obstructed roof panel
• Guide
• Damaged drive cable(s)

• Open Power Distribution Box Fuses 1 (40A) or 4 (30A)
• Circuitry open/shorted
• Damaged roof sliding panel switch
• Damaged sliding roof panel motor

It's typically the motors or the special drive tubes that it uses. If you here a clicking noise then the sunroof became to tight and ruined the motor gears. You can actually switch the two motors, one is for the shades and needs less power then the other motor. They are identical, switch them. Nex make sure they are very tight to the 3 mounting bolts, there is a rubber washer bushing that wears out and alloys the motor to flex too much, causing the gear mis-alignment and gear grinding. This works great I do it all the time.

title says X5, but description says X3. i'll explain for an X5, but X3 with the pano should be the same. and i'll explain function of the roof, not reprogramming.

button is located on the panel at the top near the front & center windshield. its the switch on the far left on this panel. its a switch that not only toggles, but also slides forward & back.

with your finger in front of the button, slide it back & release. this will make the cover slide back and store revealing the sun roof. you know have 2 options (tilt the sunroof up or open the roof completely).

to tilt it up, press up on the rear of the button and release. the rear of both roofs will pop up. to close, push up and release the front of the button or slide the switch forward.

to slide it open completely, repeat what you did to open the protective cover (slide the switch from front to back). the roof will open completely and stow out of the way. to close, slide the switch forward and release. pano roof will now close.

to close the cover, slide the switch forward again.

neat trick: if you want to tilt the sunroof open without opening the protective cover, press up on the rear of the button (when the cover is closed) and release. the cover will separate in the middle exposing about a 2-3 inch mesh, then tilts the sunroof open. to close, push the button forward again.

also, if you are above a certain speed (can't remember what it is off hand) with the sunroof open or tilted, it will close automatically, then perform the neat trick on its own to keep air coming in.

one last trick: if you want to open the windows and sunroof from outside, press & hold the unlock button (forward button on the key) and you will see the windows go down, then the roof will open to vent. releasing the button will stop the motion of the windows & roof.

hope this answered what you were asking.