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Sebring thermostat I rebuilt the engine (2.7) new water pump,head gaskets,crank,1 rod, thermostat,radiator. It runs great but is overheating. It has heat but the lower rad hose going to the thermostat stays cold and the upper hose gets hot. The fans come on. I replaced the thermostat again. I'm thinking that I have a headgasket on wrong. Is that possible? and still have heat?

  • Francis
    Francis Apr 02, 2014

    I think that the cooling system is vapore locked. Does anyone have suggestions on correcting this? I have been bleading it at the top at the bleader.

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I vaguely recall a bleeder on the intake or close to the top? Trapped air will make it overheat again.

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gordanddar

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  • Posted on May 16, 2010

SOURCE: 1995 Chrysler Cirrus overheating

Probably not water pump. Engine is notourious for vapour lock.
Cooling system must be blead of air before thermostat will work. Cool bottom rad hose is a dead give away. If you are still watching this forum reply , and I will walk you through the only way I know how to make it work properly. It's actually easy if you do it my way. I have worked on lots of cars , and this engine was the hardest to bleed out. Did one Yesterday , and works perfect.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jun 22, 2009

SOURCE: Overheating engine

Check your oil dipstick for coolant, or a mucky substance. Your symptoms sound like a blown head gasket.

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Vincent G

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  • Posted on Jul 17, 2009

SOURCE: 2002 chrysler 3.5 overheating - new rad, water

It can a the first stage of blowing head gasket.

Fill your coolant tank to the full mark when it's COLD.

Start the car, and pay close attention to the tail pipe for a small puff of white smoke.

After 15 minutes,If you do see any vapor then take the car for a 8 minutes drive.

Park the car and listen for bubbling sound from the coolant tank,

If you see bubbles coming up then you will need a head gasket change real soon.




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Colin Stickland

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  • Posted on Sep 01, 2009

SOURCE: overheating

water pump ,its a plastic impeller and its loose on the shaft ,,,,,had one a while ago exactly the same but the first time i came across this on a saab i done the same as you ,changed everything ,felt a right you know what

Karl

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  • Posted on Feb 02, 2010

SOURCE: 1994 Lebaron Convertible No Heat, High Temp Gauge

The heat is made in the engine so if the engine is overheated and nothing else is hot, the water is not moving.
I would have suspected a thermostat also.
I would guess now that you have a dead water pump.

Karl at topgunwon.com

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