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Rear differential problems

Bought a posi-trac for the rear with 4.56 gears. installed with new master rebuild kit. when installing the carrier bearing brackets on the gears do not spin. when I loosen the bolts by over a full turn the gears spin. according to chiltons it needs to be torqued to 100 ft. lbs. any help?

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Thing here is that when you do change a gear in a resr diff, you need to adjust the pinion gear(this is called in mecanic's word pre-load of your pinion gear)first witch is achievable by inserting shim washers and tightennig the pinion gear bolt.

Then and only then you can adjust the backlash off your diff (witch is the distance between the pinion gear and the driven gear of your diff.).

failling to do so will either cause damage to your new driven gear or as you are aving problems here not being able to turn the diff cause the backlash doesn't have enought clearance.

Hope this will help you!!

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SOURCE: I NEED THE TORQUE SPECS.

They are probably 8mm bolts and 17- 20 seems to be where they would be

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Dave Leoni

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SOURCE: rear differential leaking

Gear lube is SAE 75W-90 GL-5 gear lubricant. If you have a limited slip diff, add 4 oz of limited slip additive.
Torque cover to 15-20 ft-lbs.

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SOURCE: Rear caliper bolts are striped

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Anonymous

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SOURCE: i need all torque specs main bearing caps

haynes manual is the best way

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SOURCE: After having heads rebuilt and

Replace the adjustment nuts with new ones, they are a special type of nut that keeps its setting by friction between the crimp and the threads, this friction is given by a slight crimp to the nut that makes it out of round near the top of the treads, u can also install a product to the threads called Loctite red thread lock, U can also buy locking rocker arm adjustment nuts that use an allen screw to "lock" in the adjustment, these are avail from amny speed shops, one i use is Summit racing, another is Jegs speed, please keep in mind that other factors can cause this, one is low oil pressure caused by a camshaft bearings not being installed correctly, there are holes that allow oil to flow properly, if they are not lined up correctly to the block oil gallery then this can starve the lifter for oil pressure and they get noisy.

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