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Brian Deane Posted on Feb 17, 2014
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Egr insufficient flow

My engine check light came on egr insufficient flow we change the egr valve clean intake manifold change coolant sensor change ECM change coil pack an plugs an the check engine light still on fustrated

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NO YEAR, STATED.
NO ENGINE STATED.
now that makes this hard, no? my only clue is the body shell.

why not post the DTC error , not your interpretations?
on newer cars there are up to 5 or more EGR DTCs.
the exact dtc or the lack of some , tell the FULL STORY.
for example on newer cars there is EGR feedback readings.

btw: i own a 04GV and have 100%+ documentation on it and can fix any EGR fail on any car made, sure can. GEN1 , to GEN now.
but need more INFO.

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discreplayer

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  • Posted on Aug 17, 2008

SOURCE: egr valve insufficient flow detected

You probably pulled a code p0401, insufficient egr flow. Your DPFE sensor is more than likely at fault. There has been a lot of trouble with these sensors. Then reset CEL or disconnect battery for 5 minutes.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Feb 02, 2009

SOURCE: 2002 accord code P0401 [egr insufficient flow detected]

the code you have may not be due to insufficient lift, more likely you have either high or low voltage running through egr. replace the valve and your issues should go away.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 15, 2009

SOURCE: exhaust recircuulation flow insufficient detected-p0401.

Can you give me a code number. Also the egr ports plug in the elbow the valve is bolted to. Remove the elbow and clean the ports.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 18, 2009

SOURCE: Insufficient EGR Flow problem

Specifically DTC P0401 is "Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Insufficient Flow". Now this is where we have to be careful when we read a code. In this case it is not saying the EGR valve is bad, it's saying the EGR flow is too low. Now it could be because the EGR valve is bad. Or it could be a clogged EGR tube or a broken vacuum line. This is why you have to be careful and check the whole system before you go changing parts. The PCM tests the EGR system during deceleration by momentarily commanding the EGR valve to open while monitoring the Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor signal. When the EGR valve is opened, the PCM should see a proportional increase in MAP. If the expected increase in MAP is not seen, the PCM notes the amount of error that was detected and adjusts an internal fail counter towards a fail threshold level. When the fail counter exceeds the fail threshold level, the PCM will set DTC P0401. The number of test samples required to accomplish this may vary according to the amount of detected flow error. Normally, the PCM will only allow one EGR flow test sample to be taken during an ignition cycle. To aid in verifying a repair, the PCM allows twelve test samples during the first ignition cycle following a scan tool Clear Info or a battery disconnect. Between nine and twelve samples should be sufficient for the PCM to determine adequate EGR flow and pass the EGR test. To check the system first you need to remove the EGR valve and if it is clogged or broken. If it is, clean or replace it. If it is okay, then remove the EGR inlet tube from the exhaust manifold and the EGR outlet tube from the intake manifold. If either or both are clogged, clean them out or replace them. Then check the ports in the manifolds themselves to see if they are clogged. If so, clean them out. When you are done, disconnect the battery for about 30 seconds to clear the code and drive the car to see if the light comes back. This should take care of the problem. If not, then you will need to put a scan tool on the car and see what the EGR control system is doing wrong and correct it.
The Valve on this car is electronic, so, unfortunately a vacuum pump will not work for testing.
If you have a scan tool, you can command the pcm to open the valve to see if the valve itself is working.There are really only4 things to go wrong with these things, PCM, wiring,the valve itself, or plugged passages. I have never seen the pcm cause this problem, or the wiring for that matter. If you say you have pulled the EGR and checked the intake passages, then I would be pretty confident in saying the the egr valve itself is bad.
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Kelly

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  • Posted on Jan 20, 2010

SOURCE: How to clean EGR valve passages in 1993 Isuzu Trooper DOHC V6

You have to the EGR valve (sometimes the Intake manifold to EGR Vlalve line also). After you remove it take a drill bit the about 20 % smaller than the actual hole of the outlet side and rotate the drill bit with your hand to dig out the carbon. Aditionally the line coming from the intake manifold to the EGR valve will clog near the connection to the EGR valve. I use either a single piece of copper wire or the wire that you would use to tie ribar together to clean the line. When your done cleaning take a piece of vacuum line and connect it to the diaphram side and **** on it... then plug the line well with your thumb. Grasp the valve and blow thru it... Air should blow thru it freely. Remove your thumb from the vacuum line and try blowing again.. No air should pass thru the valve.
Then reinstall the valve and start the vehicle with the vacuum line disconnected (but blocked off) Use another piece of vacuum line connected to the diaphram again and **** on the line.. The vehicle should die or run really bad. If it does this then you cleaned it correctly.

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If you have replaced the EGR valve multiple times and followed the GM trouble chart, but the P0401 insufficient EGR flow code continues to recur on your 2000 Impala LS 3.8, there are a few other things you can check:
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the tube that runs from the egr to the manifold may be plugged you need to take it off and clean it out .CAREFULLY do not bend or kink it, check for carbon build up
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This is the code number after testing for the check engine light P0401. Also , the exhaust gas recirculation flow is insufficient.

More than likely you have a faulty EGR Valve Pressure Sensor, especially if your EGR Valve Pressure Sensor is the original metal type. The new sensor is made of plastic and doesn't corrode like the old design. This sensor is located on the Intake Manifold.

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Here is the sensor: http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/2001-Mercury-Sable/EGR-Valve-Pressure-Sensor/_/N-jfkhrZ93y2i

It is also possible that the EGR Valve has a clogged port, but this is less likely.

I’m happy to help further over the phone at https://www.6ya.com/expert/jeremy_69f3cc28d95bf514

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What is really happening is the intake manifold is clogging under the airhorn mount. The airhorn has a butterfly flap on it and mounts where the carburetors use to be. The EGR gets its flow from passages beneath the airhorn. You need to clean the passages to the EGR. Then remove the battery cable for 10 minutes to clear the old codes. The check engine code should go away when the manifold is clean.
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Specifically DTC P0401 is "Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Insufficient Flow". Now this is where we have to be careful when we read a code. In this case it is not saying the EGR valve is bad, it's saying the EGR flow is too low. Now it could be because the EGR valve is bad. Or it could be a clogged EGR tube or a broken vacuum line. This is why you have to be careful and check the whole system before you go changing parts. The PCM tests the EGR system during deceleration by momentarily commanding the EGR valve to open while monitoring the Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor signal. When the EGR valve is opened, the PCM should see a proportional increase in MAP. If the expected increase in MAP is not seen, the PCM notes the amount of error that was detected and adjusts an internal fail counter towards a fail threshold level. When the fail counter exceeds the fail threshold level, the PCM will set DTC P0401. The number of test samples required to accomplish this may vary according to the amount of detected flow error. Normally, the PCM will only allow one EGR flow test sample to be taken during an ignition cycle. To aid in verifying a repair, the PCM allows twelve test samples during the first ignition cycle following a scan tool Clear Info or a battery disconnect. Between nine and twelve samples should be sufficient for the PCM to determine adequate EGR flow and pass the EGR test. To check the system first you need to remove the EGR valve and if it is clogged or broken. If it is, clean or replace it. If it is okay, then remove the EGR inlet tube from the exhaust manifold and the EGR outlet tube from the intake manifold. If either or both are clogged, clean them out or replace them. Then check the ports in the manifolds themselves to see if they are clogged. If so, clean them out. When you are done, disconnect the battery for about 30 seconds to clear the code and drive the car to see if the light comes back. This should take care of the problem. If not, then you will need to put a scan tool on the car and see what the EGR control system is doing wrong and correct it.
The Valve on this car is electronic, so, unfortunately a vacuum pump will not work for testing.
If you have a scan tool, you can command the pcm to open the valve to see if the valve itself is working.There are really only4 things to go wrong with these things, PCM, wiring,the valve itself, or plugged passages. I have never seen the pcm cause this problem, or the wiring for that matter. If you say you have pulled the EGR and checked the intake passages, then I would be pretty confident in saying the the egr valve itself is bad.
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