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Yransmission slipping engine torque causes slippage, engine rpm to increase no increase in speed

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Bad tranny, do not drive it slipping or it will burn up clutch packs.etc.
first off,
scan it, get all DTCs ,like P07xx ? maybe a shift solenoid is bad
and not a new $3000 tranny.
or read the FSM. read the on car tests
yours will fail the stall test. read the sections there.
or take it in.

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Value(s)
Yes
No

1
Was the Powertrain On-Board Diagnostic (OBD) System Check performed?
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Go to Step 2
Go to Powertrain On Board Diagnostic (OBD) System Check

2
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If so, read on.
Otherwise skip to the end and answer some questions.

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MY EXPERIENCE WITH SIMILAR SYMPTOMS
The condition that causes that issue on my car is this:
- A slight uphill grade increases the load on the engine.
The car tends to gradually slow and it is necessary to depress the gas pedal to maintain speed.
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Does that help?
If not:

QUESTIONS
Please define the symptoms.
What are the road conditions when the surge occurs? (A slight uphill grade?)
What is the frequency of the surge?
Does the engine power output have a noticeable surge?
Is there a speed change related to the surge?
Does the tachometer move up and down with little or no change in vehicle speed?
Are all instrument indication in the normal range?
What else has changed?

Good luck!
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