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Bottom engine knocking sound

When running knocks gets stronger as heats up. only 50,000 miles on engine had recent oil change and new belts driven very little last 3 years.

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Should have done an engine flush before the oil change .as can be dirty filter at the oil pump. do it again ,but engine flush first. run the engine on tick over.but it sounds like the damage has been done .failed main bearings.

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Oil pressure might actually be a bit high for idle. High or low oil pressure in an older engine tends to be indicative of some serious issues. Oil pressure that is too high tends to be a clue that you have serious carbon build up. That aside, have you tried running a higher octane fuel, or perhaps adding an octane booster to your normal grade? Pinging can become knocking in a badly worn engine. One recommendation: At your next oil change try substituting a quart of marvel mystery oil or lucas engine oil treatment in place of one quart of your normal oil. Both have some pretty good track records for helping to free up sticking valves and break up carbon in older engines. I'm an old timer myself, and I personally swear by Marvel for older engines. There is no "rebuild in a can" but Marvel comes close. Give those a shot, let me know what happens.

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  • Posted on Nov 22, 2009

SOURCE: knocking noise coming from belt area. when belt

Had the same issue and it turned out to be the balancer. Not too difficult to fix any questions or advice, I am happy to help you. Justlet me know. Good luck

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