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Fiat palio 1.6 twin cam 16valve cam timing

How do i set the timing without the locking tool

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I just want to know how to set the cam shaft rocking timing?

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    Luntukazi ngonzi Oct 13, 2021

    I was looking for an answer of how to set the cam shaft timing on my fiat palio

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The old trick is to cut the current belt in half along its length, then remove the front most half of the old belt. Slide the new belt up to the remaining half of the old belt, then cut of the old belt and push the new belt fully on to the sprockets.

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    Keith Hastings Sep 27, 2018

    That's not a bad idea except the Pulleys had to be removed to replace bearings.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Feb 08, 2009

SOURCE: SET TIMING ON 2.4 TWIN CAM 1999 MALIBU

bring the piston no 1 on the top position check the cam shaft si moving freelyon the outer side of the shaft there are 2 gear with 14mm bolts and 1 extra whole, put a long bolt in the empty space and try to turnthe engine the bolt will go further in the space than the timming is set put the chain on that should do

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SOURCE: 318 timing chain setting m42 engine with out bmw tools

Remove the cam cover, remove the spark plugs, turn the engine to number 1 TDC, put a pencil in spark plug hole number one and twist the crank back and forth and make doubly sure you are at TDC. Now loosen the four bolts at the front of each cam sprocket, check TDC again with the pencil and rocking the crank, now take the pencil and lay it across the flats at the back of each cam. Twist the cams very carefully so that the pencil sits flat on each cam square. Snug up the sprocket bolts and use the pencil to check TDC again! Now check the cams again. Repeat the procedure until you have the cams flat and the engine at TDC.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jul 01, 2009

SOURCE: i nead torque wrench setting for head bolts and cam bolts

Can anyone help us we need to know what is the setting for the cams in our Kia carnival Classic 2001

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Colin Stickland

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  • Posted on Jan 02, 2010

SOURCE: how to set the twin cam ,on a renault megane

a renault ,real euro car this one ,no problem here at all ,bring the pistons to TDC the bring back a bit so no piston is at the top ,mark it whilst its at the top with a thin white paint mark on the sprocket ,then back it down a bit .fit head because i sure the head bolts are under the cams ,then fit cams and make sure the inlet and exhaust valves are closed on no1 .no4 should be open with the cam lobes pointing down ,now look for the timing marks,they could be a lug on the cam pointing at something or a slot on the back of the camshaft that has to horizontal with the head ,or even a hole in the front pulley that aligns with a hole indent in the head that has an 8mm bolt push in to hold gear wheel in place -then when you find the marks bring the bottom sprocket back to the mark ,the actual mark is on the flywheel as i remember a special tool with a spring loaded pin to locate flywheel is used ,the fit the belt ,seem to remember a white line here on the belt that aligns with the cams a well ?? look iam old and i forget things ,then make sure you turn engine over twice on bottom pulley with a ratchet to ensure valves clear before starting -

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 18, 2010

SOURCE: timing marks on a 1.9 fiat diesel palio

digram with fiat palio 1.9 disel timing belt marks

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