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Michael Belanger Posted on Dec 07, 2013
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Neutral safety switch

1988 765 turbo wagon. Car in either neutral or park, I turn the key to the start position, no cranking - I used to have to hold the shifter fully forward with one hand while turning the key with the other to get it to start, but now, nothing. I THINK the nss is bad, but don't know for sure. Is there a 'temporary fix' for this at least until I can get the money to fix it permanently? I've been told 3 things (by 2 different shops): that the neutral safety switch is bad, that there's a bushing in the shifter that's preventing the nss from making contact, and that both the nss AND shifter need replacement. One shop wanted $600+ for the bushing replacement & the other wanted over $1100 for the shifter/nss replacement. I can't afford either one right now.

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My first instinct is to suggest cleaning the Neutral Safety Switch (NSS) using any type of spray on electrical contact cleaner. For other suggestions, go to: http://www.forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=39526

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ah~! the starter relay change it period?

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You linkage is working properly it sounds like, especially if the indicator for "D, R, N", etc are lining up. However the linkage or the neutral safety switch may need to be adjusted. More than likely, it's your neutral safety switch.

The brake pedal release has nothing to do with the neutral safety switch when switching gears.

The brake pedal release is just a safety to prevent you from pushing the gear shifter accidentally. Actually, you should be able to start the truck without holding the brakes.

If the neutral safety switch is bad or misaligned, it'll do exactly what you're describing. If pulling it down in neutral starts the truck, then that's a sure indicator.


Anonymous

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  • Posted on Feb 27, 2009

SOURCE: Car will NOT start in park but will start in neutral

It sounds like you new switch needs adjusted just a little bit.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jun 20, 2009

SOURCE: 1999 Isuzu trooper wont start everything works

If you hear a click when the ignition is turned but no start its a high possibility that its the starter or the wiring going to and from the starter. Hope this helps! ~Derek~

Anonymous

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SOURCE: Starting problem - 1999 Dodge Neon

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The Neutral Safety switch monitors the position of your gear selector lever and either interrupts or allows the starting circuit in your car or truck to do its job. On newer vehicles it may also monitor the position of the brake pedal to make sure that the vehicle is in park or neutral AND that your foot is on the brake.

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