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Code P0170 and P0173 are triping the dmv inspection stations computer system.Is this something i can repair myself? Also the srs / esp light are being displayed on the dashboard

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Hi, The p0170 and p0173 are fuel trim malfunctions. This is normally corrected by replacing your mass air flow sensor.

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P0173 Fuel Trim Malfunction (Bank 2) - OBD Codes

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Detailed information on troubleshooting and repairing a P0173 DTC code which refers to a fuel trim malfunction on Bank 2. Also includes links to relevant forum ...
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What causes a P0170 code

P0170 Fuel Trim Malfunction (Bank 1) OBD-II Trouble Code Technical Description Article by Dale Toalston ASE Certified Technician Fuel Trim Malfunction (Bank 1) What does that mean? This code is one that surfaces with certain makes of automobiles more than others. In writing this article I've added Mercedes-Benz-specific info since it seems that M-B (and VW) are most prone to having this P0170 surface along with misfire codes or other fuel trim codes. P0170 means there was a malfunction in the computer's control of the air:fuel ratio. It also indicates that the fuel trims reached their limit of adding fuel while trying to compensate for a actual or perceived rich condition. When the fuel trims reach their rich correction limit, the PCM (Powertrain Control Module) sets a P0170, indicating a problem or malfunction in the fuel trims. It may also have a P0173 referring to the same malfunction but on bank two. Symptoms Symptoms of a P0170 DTC may include: MIL (Malfunction Indicator Lamp) Illumination Start and stall Poor fuel economy Black smoke at tailpipe Hesitation/misfire at idle or under load Causes Potential causes include a vacuum leak, unmetered air leaks Fuel saturated engine oil Leak in turbo air charge hoses (if equipped) Possibly bad O2 sensor (If Mercedes, may require adaptation with M-Benz compatible scan tool.) Oil contamination in MAF connector or O2 sensor connectors. Also check ignition coils, cam and crank sensors, and oil sensor for leakage contributing to oil intrusion in wiring harness. Defective MAF (Mass Air Flow) sensor (especially on Mercedez-Benz and other European autos. There are a lot of problems with aftermarket MAF sensors.) Defective fuel pressure regulator Leaking camshaft adjuster solenoids (Mercedes-Benz). NOTE: for some Mercedes-Benz models there is a service recall for a crankcase vent hose located under the intake manifold. It should be checked for leaks/cracking and also operation of check valve in the hose. The check valve should flow only one way. Possible Solutions It should be stated right off the bat that the most common problem associated with this code is the MAF sensor or air mass meter. This is especially the case with Mercedes-Benz and Volkswagen and other European cars. At time of writing, you don't normally see this code with American-made cars, and minimally with Asian, and, to be honest, I have no idea why. It appears to me that the PCM (powertrain control module) logic used by some European car manufacturers to set a P0170 (or P0173) fault code simply isn't used by American vehicle manufacturers. It is more common to see P0171, 0174, 0172, 0175 codes set with regard to fuel trim malfunctions on American cars. There is very little information on the setting conditions for a P0170, or P0173, but what information that is available almost seems to be a redundancy of the P0171,4,2 & 5 setting conditions. I'm sure there's a reason for it, but I can't get anyone to tell me what that is. The similarities between them may be why we don't see this code surface on domestic vehicles very often. It's simply unnecessary. So, simply put, if you have a P0170, your PCM noticed that the fuel trims reached their rich correction limit. Basically it's adding fuel to try to compensate for a lean condition, real or perceived. If you have this code and access to a scan tool, observe the MAF sensor reading in grams/sec. The reading will be different for different automobiles, so get a good spec. I'm going to stick with what would be normal for a Mercedes (1.8L), since they have the bulk of the trouble. Expect to see at idle 3.5-5 g/s (ideally). At 2500 RPMs with no load it should be between 9 and 12 g/s. On road test, at WOT (wide open throttle) it should be 90 g/s or well above. If it's not in specs, replace it. Be careful of Ebay MAFs. Often they don't work according to OE specifications. If the MAF checks out and there is no oil intrusion at the connector, check fuel pressure and ensure that there are no leaks at the regulator internally or externally. Check all vacuum hoses and confirm none are cracked, disconnected or missing. Make sure there are no vacuum leaks at the intake manifold gaskets or tears in the air supply hose. If the engine is turbo charged, be sure the hoses are in good condition and have no leaks. Leaking turbo pressure hoses could cause a rich condition. Inspect the condition of crankcase vent hose under intake manifold and operation of check valve in the hose. (In the "What are the causes?" section) If there doesn't appear to be any problems with the fuel pressure, MAF or vacuum hoses, then inspect the O2 sensor connectors for oil intrusion. A bad O2 sensor could cause a P0170, or P0173. Repair cause of oil leak and replace oil-fouled O2 sensor.

Read more at: http://www.obd-codes.com/p0170
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P0170 Fuel Trim Malfunction (Bank 1) OBD-II Trouble Code Technical Description Article by Dale Toalston ASE Certified Technician Fuel Trim Malfunction (Bank 1) What does that mean? This code is one that surfaces with certain makes of automobiles more than others. In writing this article I've added Mercedes-Benz-specific info since it seems that M-B (and VW) are most prone to having this P0170 surface along with misfire codes or other fuel trim codes. P0170 means there was a malfunction in the computer's control of the air:fuel ratio. It also indicates that the fuel trims reached their limit of adding fuel while trying to compensate for a actual or perceived rich condition. When the fuel trims reach their rich correction limit, the PCM (Powertrain Control Module) sets a P0170, indicating a problem or malfunction in the fuel trims. It may also have a P0173 referring to the same malfunction but on bank two. Symptoms Symptoms of a P0170 DTC may include: MIL (Malfunction Indicator Lamp) Illumination Start and stall Poor fuel economy Black smoke at tailpipe Hesitation/misfire at idle or under load Causes Potential causes include a vacuum leak, unmetered air leaks Fuel saturated engine oil Leak in turbo air charge hoses (if equipped) Possibly bad O2 sensor (If Mercedes, may require adaptation with M-Benz compatible scan tool.) Oil contamination in MAF connector or O2 sensor connectors. Also check ignition coils, cam and crank sensors, and oil sensor for leakage contributing to oil intrusion in wiring harness. Defective MAF (Mass Air Flow) sensor (especially on Mercedez-Benz and other European autos. There are a lot of problems with aftermarket MAF sensors.) Defective fuel pressure regulator Leaking camshaft adjuster solenoids (Mercedes-Benz). NOTE: for some Mercedes-Benz models there is a service recall for a crankcase vent hose located under the intake manifold. It should be checked for leaks/cracking and also operation of check valve in the hose. The check valve should flow only one way. Possible Solutions It should be stated right off the bat that the most common problem associated with this code is the MAF sensor or air mass meter. This is especially the case with Mercedes-Benz and Volkswagen and other European cars. At time of writing, you don't normally see this code with American-made cars, and minimally with Asian, and, to be honest, I have no idea why. It appears to me that the PCM (powertrain control module) logic used by some European car manufacturers to set a P0170 (or P0173) fault code simply isn't used by American vehicle manufacturers. It is more common to see P0171, 0174, 0172, 0175 codes set with regard to fuel trim malfunctions on American cars. There is very little information on the setting conditions for a P0170, or P0173, but what information that is available almost seems to be a redundancy of the P0171,4,2 & 5 setting conditions. I'm sure there's a reason for it, but I can't get anyone to tell me what that is. The similarities between them may be why we don't see this code surface on domestic vehicles very often. It's simply unnecessary. So, simply put, if you have a P0170, your PCM noticed that the fuel trims reached their rich correction limit. Basically it's adding fuel to try to compensate for a lean condition, real or perceived. If you have this code and access to a scan tool, observe the MAF sensor reading in grams/sec. The reading will be different for different automobiles, so get a good spec. I'm going to stick with what would be normal for a Mercedes (1.8L), since they have the bulk of the trouble. Expect to see at idle 3.5-5 g/s (ideally). At 2500 RPMs with no load it should be between 9 and 12 g/s. On road test, at WOT (wide open throttle) it should be 90 g/s or well above. If it's not in specs, replace it. Be careful of Ebay MAFs. Often they don't work according to OE specifications. If the MAF checks out and there is no oil intrusion at the connector, check fuel pressure and ensure that there are no leaks at the regulator internally or externally. Check all vacuum hoses and confirm none are cracked, disconnected or missing. Make sure there are no vacuum leaks at the intake manifold gaskets or tears in the air supply hose. If the engine is turbo charged, be sure the hoses are in good condition and have no leaks. Leaking turbo pressure hoses could cause a rich condition. Inspect the condition of crankcase vent hose under intake manifold and operation of check valve in the hose. (In the "What are the causes?" section) If there doesn't appear to be any problems with the fuel pressure, MAF or vacuum hoses, then inspect the O2 sensor connectors for oil intrusion. A bad O2 sensor could cause a P0170, or P0173. Repair cause of oil leak and replace oil-fouled O2 sensor.

Read more at: http://www.obd-codes.com/p0170
Copyright © OBD-Codes.com
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Are you sure it is a trans code. Everything that I have found states that P0170 is a fuel trim problem?P0170 Fuel Trim Malfunction (Bank 1)

The code P0170 means that the air-fuel mixture coming in to the engine is too lean, or too rich. Usually it's the lean condition that causes this code. The code P0173 means the same, only for the Bank 2. Some car manufacturers list the description for the code P0170 as self adaptation out of limits.
The code P0170 could be caused by a number of reasons, such as vacuum leaks, bad PCV valve, or other parts of crankcase ventilation system, low fuel pressure, bad oxygen sensor, bad MAF sensor or even a bad EGR vlave.

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My srs light went on, what do i do?

It is recommended that any time the SRS system light comes on that you take it to your local repair shop for inspection or repairs.The reason for this is because if it were to accidentally deploy while doing a home diagnostics it could cause serious injuries.Also there is a procedure and warnings that have to be followed when working anywhere near the SRS system.Thats why I recommend that you take it to a service station for inspection and repairs.
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P0173 O2 Sensor System - Lambda Controller at the Limit (Bank 2 P0170 O2 Sensor System - Lambda Controller at the Limit (Bank 1 Visually/physically inspect for air leakage in intake/exhaust system as following items. A. Vacuum hoses for splits, kinks and improper connections. B. Throttle body gasket. C. Gasket between intake manifold and cylinder head. D. Seals between intake manifold and fuel injectors. E. Exhaust system between HO2S and Three way catalyst for air leakage. 2. Visually/physically inspect the restriction in intake/exhaust system as following items. A. Air cleaner filter element for excessive dirt or for any foreign objects. B. Throttle body inlet for damage or for any foreign objects. C. Throttle bore, throttle plate and the IAC passages for chocking and for any foreign objects. D. Restricted exhaust system.
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I have a 95 jeep cherokee and i can't find the airbag light inthe dash for a state inspection where is it located can you help

Have the vehicle scanned for codes .See If SRS is one of the codes in memory. If it is repair it.
To locate the SRS light aka airbag system, putkey in ignition turnto on position and look at dash for SRS light. it will go out within 30 sec of vehicle being turned on.
Lastly go to a different station for Inspection.
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CodeP0170 and P0173 are triping the DMV inspection centers computer system. Are these codes something i can repair myself? Also the srs/esp lights are being displayed on the dashboard.

hello, p0170 and p0173 is describe as self adaptation of mixture formation to limit ,possible cause are air leak,fuel injector,our engine is too sensitive in fuel octane,,, in your srs/esp problem, sometimes only ,battery voltage drop,srs/esp appear in cluster,only dealer have the star diagnose to erased the fault code,
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