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It there power to a fuel pump at all the time

We are not getting fuel to the engine. Change the fuel relay box out and still no fuel coming to the engine. We do have power to the fuel pump for couple of sec. I do not know who to check the fuel pump out. I think it is the fuel pump but I can not prove it.

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If there is power to the pump and it still won't start, it sounds like the fuel pump

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