I Need to know the correct tightening torque for the two front brake caliper securing bolts on a 2006 X-Type Jaguar. Preferably in Nm.
I know that it's a jag, and I know you are trying to be perfect, but in over thirty years, I've never seen a tech put a torque wrench on a caliper bolt. If you really want to I'd use about 35-40 foot pounds. (I go by bolt diameter) You don't have to slam them down but you don't want them to back out either. A bit over 35 is reasonable and should not damage anything and will keep them secure!
I have no idea what nm conversion is..
As I said, When torquing, I use bolt diameter as a guide...A bolt of similar diameter should not be torqued to a higher setting without risk of it snapping under use. There are exceptions, being wet thread torque, which is generally slightly lower due to the lack of friction between the threads on the bolt and mating threads, and when torquing an aluminium part down, such as a cylinder head, where hot final growth of the head will snap bolts if not compensated for. In a caliper arrangement, the bolts are not loaded in the direction of removal but are side-loaded. The locking compound you see on the threads is put there more to prevent moisture from getting in there and causing the threads to rust. It's more of a thread sealer than a thread locker. Actual torque is more accurately applied by measuring bolt stretch not actual bolt tightness. In a caliper install, it is far less important than in the example of the cylinder head. Providing that the caliper bolts are tight enough to secure the part, and not under so much tension that they are over-stressed to the point that when the part gets hot it will grow enough to snap them, the only other concern is that they will loosen and back out. at 35-40 foot pounds, they will do neither. Tighter than that is inviting the bolts to either snap or tear the threads out of the cast-iron steering knuckle to which they are fastened. At the factory, bolts are installed with air guns...they are set to approximate specifications but are a long way from exact. yet bolts stay in place nicely till they are removed for a first brake service. If you checked the installed torque on the next fifty vehicles coming off the assembly line I'm positive that you would find a three to seven lb difference in each vehicle.
By design, calipers have a "fail safe"...Even with no bolts installed, it is very difficult for them to fall off. I have seen many vehicles that a technician forgot to install the bolts altogether...(not from my shop) in every case, the caliper was noisy, but did not fall off. Not saying that you should not use bolts, but it shows that there is a safety margin there far larger than you could imagine.
I personally have installed calipers on vehicles that need to make super hard stops from speeds of over 300mph...and never torqued a caliper bolt. On road course & round track cars, I would use the same method, but for added safety, would use stainless aircraft wire locks on all fasteners. Even so, I never had a caliper or other bolt loosen or fail and even need the wire to "save" the situation.
This isn't an "I'm right...You're wrong" situation, but I do admire your attention to detail...there certainly is nothing wrong with that. What I'm saying is that even without the specific factory #s, you won't have a problem with your install.
More important to brake service is fluid maintenence ...change fluid out at least once a year...it is hygroscopic...as such, it draws in moisture from the air which can cause fluid to rot system from the inside and can cause it to boil on hard braking under higher concentrations. I flush out my system each year and even with over 300k on it, I've never had an internal component failure caused by rust etc. Synthetic fluids are a good option...they far exceed all manufacturers specs and don't draw moisture as standard dot3&4 fluids do. Aside from proper rotor cooling and use of quality pad material, it's one of the best "up-grades" you can make from a safety and performance standpoint.
Good luck with your car!!!!
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Thanks for your response Thundergod but I wasn't trying to be perfect, just correct. These two bolts are safety critical and when removed you will see that they are secured with locking compound. They are M10 and 40 foot pounds ( approx 55 Nm ) sounds a bit light to me. On my previous car, a Mazda 6, the torque was 70 Nm.
Has anyone got the recomended figure from the Manual anywhere, or does anyone know if a Manual is posted on the internet ?
Thanks again Thundergod, I absolutely agree with everything you said and I apreciate the time and trouble you have taken with your comprehensive reply. I learned to spanner from my old Dad before being trained as an aircraft maintenance technician and realise that where a torque is specified it is done so for a good reason and should be adrered to. In this case I thought one may be required and without access to a workshop manual I couldn't verify that one way or the other. As you say, the bolts are in sheer (side loaded ) and should be fine at 40ft lbs plus a bit of threadlock. Thanks.
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