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Anonymous Posted on Aug 17, 2013

Timing Completely off. I've taken the timing belt off the crankshaft, not completely off, just off the crankshaft. The piston is at tdc, how do I set the crankshaft at tdc.

  • Anonymous Aug 18, 2013

    I am trying to set the actual timing belt. Nothing has broke. I just wanted to know how to the set all the parts on tdc. Thanks.

  • Anonymous Aug 18, 2013

    And it's a 2002, sorry.

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  • Posted on Feb 07, 2009

SOURCE: Hyundai Lantra 19999 Timing Mark

are you setting the timing belt or just setting the timing with a light ? if you are setting the timing it should be set at about 10 before top dead center or maybe would run a little better at 12 or so thanks jerry holler if you have more .

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  • Posted on Feb 25, 2009

SOURCE: Timing belt broken

this is an interference (valves hit the pistons) engine and will cause engine damage if the belt brakes, the best thing to do is put the belt on and see if it starts, I have seen some dodge the bullet on occasion. In most cases u will hear nothing, the engine will just stop running.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jul 22, 2009

SOURCE: Timing marks on cam sproket and crankshaft pully 1996 Elantra 1.8

dear friend-if your mark at the bottom is on TDC then that is fine,there is a 8mm hole in the top sprocket.alighn the hole with the mark on the cylinderhead,put belt on and tention turn ones around and lighn up marks.re-assemble.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Dec 28, 2009

SOURCE: balancer shaft came apart

Sounds like the harmonic balancer - that also serves as the timing on a non distributor car has stripped the threads out. This usually - not always but usually requires a new crank shaft. Might be cheaper to just get a used engine.
take down the vin number and ask the local dealer if there have been any recalls or service bulletins

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 08, 2011

SOURCE: 03' santa fe 2.7 liter

replace the belt with a new one, when you do the water pump,reset the timing and give it a start,if it works,then you can SMILE,if not, you can use the belt/water pump on the new engine.gotta be the cheapest way forward.......

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TDC is an acronym for Top Dead Center. It is when the piston has reached the very top of its travel and there is nowhere for the piston to go but down. If you align the timing marks on the engine, the piston will be at TDC with the valves on #1 closed.

To position your crankshaft and cam to the correct position, it should be done BEFORE removing the belt if possible. If the belt has already been removed and/or the belt was broken, the same principles apply, but you will have to go about it completely different.

Turn the engine clockwise to align the "O" on the crankshaft pulley with the "O" on the outer timing belt cover.
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Now if the belt has already been removed or if the belt was broken, You may have to temporarily put the outer cover back on. You may have to put it on and take it off several times until you get things lined up. Time the crankshaft "Os" first. It will not matter which rotation you are on if the belt is not installed. (TDC is TDC - the piston doesn't really care where the valves are - that's the camshaft's problem LOL)
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TIMING BELT & SPROCKETS R & I
NOTE: Some procedures may differ slightly due to engine
construction.
Removal
1) Remove all necessary air ducts. Position No. 4 piston at
TDC of compression stroke. Align timing marks. See Fig. 2. Remove fan
and fan shroud. Remove belts. If necessary, remove radiator and
splashguard.
2) Prevent engine from rotating and remove crankshaft timing
pulley retaining bolt. Remove upper and lower timing belt covers.
Remove spring from tension pulley. Loosen adjusting bolt and move
pulley toward water pump. Remove timing belt.
CAUTION: Ensure pistons are at TDC when rotating camshaft or damage
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Inspection
1) Handle timing belt carefully. Avoid twisting or kinking
belt. Do not allow belt to become contaminated by water, oil, dirt or
other contaminates. Inspect belt for cracks or damage. If necessary,
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2) Measure tension pulley spring length and force. Spring
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compression stroke by rotating crankshaft until keyway aligns with
mark on front crankshaft seal housing (12 o'clock). Rotate camshaft
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NOTE: When timing marks are aligned as stated above, No. 4 piston
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Gasoline Engines






Fig. 1: Adjusting the belt tension on a 2.0L 8 valve
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  8. Connect the negative battery cable.

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TIMING BELT & SPROCKETS R & I
NOTE: Some procedures may differ slightly due to engine
construction.
Removal
1) Remove all necessary air ducts. Position No. 4 piston at
TDC of compression stroke. Align timing marks. See Fig. 2. Remove fan
and fan shroud. Remove belts. If necessary, remove radiator and
splashguard.
2) Prevent engine from rotating and remove crankshaft timing
pulley retaining bolt. Remove upper and lower timing belt covers.
Remove spring from tension pulley. Loosen adjusting bolt and move
pulley toward water pump. Remove timing belt.
CAUTION: Ensure pistons are at TDC when rotating camshaft or damage
may result.
Inspection
1) Handle timing belt carefully. Avoid twisting or kinking
belt. Do not allow belt to become contaminated by water, oil, dirt or
other contaminates. Inspect belt for cracks or damage. If necessary,
replace.
2) Measure tension pulley spring length and force. Spring
length should not exceed 2.76" (70.2 mm) and spring force should not
be less than 197-347 lbs. (27-48 kg).
3) Replace tension pulley spring if not within specification.
Installation
1) Pull tensioner fully toward water pump side and
temporarily tighten retaining bolt. Ensure No. 4 cylinder is at TDC on
compression stroke by rotating crankshaft until keyway aligns with
mark on front crankshaft seal housing (12 o’clock). Rotate camshaft
until timing mark on cam gear (arrow) aligns with mark on upper
camshaft cover (notch). See Fig. 2.
NOTE: When timing marks are aligned as stated above, No. 4 piston
is at TDC on compression stroke.
2) Position timing belt over crankshaft sprocket, oil pump
sprocket, camshaft sprocket and tensioner in that order. Ensure belt
is positioned in sequence given and without slack between sprockets.
Loosen tension sprocket adjusting bolt allowing spring tension to
tighten belt. Tighten adjusting bolt temporarily.
3) Temporarily install crankshaft pulley bolt and rotate
crankshaft 2 complete revolutions in opposite direction of engine
rotation, until marks on crankshaft and front oil seal retainer are
aligned again. See Fig. 2. Loosen tensioner lock bolt, allowing
tesioner spring to fully adjust tension. Tighten tensioner lock bolt.
4) Install timing belt covers. To complete installation,
reverse removal procedures. Tighten all bolts to specification. See
TORQUE SPECIFICATIONS table at end of this article.
Fig. 2: 2.3L & 2.6L Timing Alignment Marks
Courtesy of Isuzu Motor Co.

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This will take about 3-4 hours. If you look at the drive belts, they will all have to be taken off to get to the timing belt. The engine crankshaft has to be positioned for marks to line-up. The crankshaft will have to be prevented from turning so you can take off its drive pulley. Rotate until the alignment cylinder is near TDC, remove sparkplug, then packing a small rope on top of the piston prevents the engine from turning.. Once you change one timing belt, you will never buy another car with a timing belt again. You can get a manual on eBay.
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