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Anonymous Posted on Aug 07, 2013

Replaced ignition switch module, which corrected the initial problem of no windows / no indicators / no windscreen wipers, now turns over but won't start

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 13, 2011

SOURCE: I was rolling down a window when all of a sudden

Is the car a convertible? If so the window controls operate through the convertible top computer.
By ignition switch module are you talking about the part under the lock cylinder? They do fail a lot.
What do you mean by the relays are intact? Have you checked for power at each fuse with the key on?

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 13, 2011

SOURCE: I have a 97 Saab

Used ignition switches are just as likely to be junk as the one you are replacing. Check for power at both sides of the each fuse for each affected circuit. IF the car has an ignition lock relay swap it, and make sure the it has power, ground, and is being turned on by the key. I can't remember if it is under the dash or hood, or if it even has one.

Randy Ohler

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  • Posted on Jan 21, 2015

SOURCE: replaced ignition switch/key/ security module on 1999 saab 9-5 now won't start, will turn over

It surely does. If you got the key,switch, and module fro one car. Go back and get the engine control module. This will work also. But beware. The engine module must fit you engine and transmission. Also beware. Some security modules are one time only program. Meaning, you have to buy a new one and have it programmed.

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Do you know what a serial data network is ?
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YES - Go to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections in Wiring Systems
NO - Go to Step 3
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Go to Step 4
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  6. ?‡'
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1. When replacing the battery, some sort of shortcircuit might have occurrred messing up the fuses.
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2. As far as I'm concerned, a way to "reset" the computer in the car is disconnecting the battery, so the computer may have been reset with wrong parameters.
Solution: Have you tried disconnecting the battery for a couple of minutes? and plug it back?.

3. If your model has automatic wipers, try switching from auto to manual mode and viceversa.

4. When the battery on my 206 was almost worn out, the lights kept turning on after killing the switch, followed by a quick beeping (which normally indicates the power in the battery is draining). At first, I thought it was the switch of the headlamps, but after replacing the battery with a new one, the problem got solved. Maybe the battery you just put in is faulty?

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GENERAL PROCEDURES Rear Window Motor Initialization s1r~us~en~file=ani_caut.gif~gen~ref.gif CAUTION: Make sure that no obstructions are present in the power rear window system when carrying out this procedure.
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NOTE: Steps 1-6 must be completed within 30 seconds. The entire procedure must be completed within five minutes.
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Look into changing the ignition switch...sounds odd I know, but we had similar issue and that was the problem.
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