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Anonymous Posted on Jul 28, 2013

No spark Replaced cam sensor crank sensor ignition module coil starter fuel pump harmonic balancer battery

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Take off your oil cap and have someone crank over the car for you. Look through at the valves. Do they move? May need a timing belt if they don't.
What kind of car is this?
May have an ecm issue.
Need to test ignition switch by checking for power at the solenoid of your starter.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 02, 2009

SOURCE: 1993 Chevy Cavalier 2.2 wont start

Have you had the Starter Checked out?

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Paullycarguy

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  • Posted on Feb 26, 2009

SOURCE: cobalt no spark

I was going to say crank sensor, but you changed it. What have you done to it latley? Or did this just start? I kinda want to say PCM for some reason. Any welding done on the car latley?

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 23, 2009

SOURCE: 1995 lumina cranks but will not start

Sounds like it has jumped timing, dont know which engine you have so could be chain or belt.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Aug 27, 2009

SOURCE: "Cranks, but won't start". Replaced fuel pump, CKP, ICM & nothing

If the engine cranks over normally when you attempt to start you car, but the engine does not start, the problem may be NO FUEL, NO SPARK or NO COMPRESSION. The engine needs adequate fuel pressure, a properly timed spark and normal compression to start.


1) To find why the engine won't start, remove the air inlet tube from the throttle body, push the throttle open and spray a small amount of aerosol starting fluid into the engine. Crank the engine. If it has spark and compression but NO FUEL, it will start and run a few seconds before dying. If it does NOT start, it probably has NO SPARK.

2)Another method to check for spark is to pull a spark plug wire off of a spark plug (if it has plug wires, coil-on-plug ignitions do not) and place the open end of the plug wire near a metal surface on the engine. Have a helper crank the engine while you watch for a spark. DO NOT hold the wire while doing this as it can shock you. If you see a spark, the problem is not spark, but most likely NO FUEL or NO COMPRESSION. If you do not see a spark, the problem is in the IGNITION CIRCUIT.

3)Proper fuel pressure is critical for fuel injected engines to start and run. You should hear the fuel pump inside the fuel tank buzz for a couple of seconds when the ignition is turned on (no buzz means the pump is not running and the engine is not getting fuel). You can smell the tailpipe for gasoline vapors after cranking the engine. If you smell gas, the problem is likely not fuel but NO SPARK. You can also remove the plastic cap and press the schraeder valve test fitting on the fuel rail to see if there is any fuel pressure to the engine (not a very accurate test because fuel pressure must be at a certain level for the engine to start, for that you need a gauge). Even so, no fuel at the fuel rail would tell you fuel is not getting to the engine..

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Sep 01, 2009

SOURCE: 2000 Silverado-4.3 ltre-cranks over-wont start-consistenly

Yes. First, in the fuse block under the hood check INJ A fuse and INJ B fuse. INJ A fuse is circuit 1039 which feeds the coil. If the fuse is OK, replace the coil electrical connector. I stock 2 of these at my dealership because they are needed quite often.
FYI P1351 is an ignition coil control circuit DTC.

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Check for spark. My guess would be the ignition module going out, but could also be the crank sensor. The module sits under the coils. Check all coils for spark. If any coil doesn't spark, you can try replacing just that coil, but the problem may still be the module underneath. If you have a meter, run a resistance check on each coil from the terminals to ground. If the same coil that doesn't fire aslo has a different resistance, replace that coil.
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The 3.3L engine is the only one with the C 3 I system. REMOVAL and INSTALLATION C3I Module See Figure 1
  1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
  2. Unplug the 14-way connector at the ignition module.

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Fig. Fig. 1: Distributorless C 3 I coils and module system - 3.3L engine
  1. Tag and disconnect the spark plug wires at the coil assembly.
  2. Remove the nuts and washers securing the C 3 I module assembly to the bracket.
  3. Remove the 6 bolts attaching the coil assemblies to the ignition module.

To install:
  1. Install the coil assemblies to the ignition module and install the 6 attaching bolts.
  2. Install the nuts and washers attaching the assembly to the bracket.
  3. Connect the spark plug wires.
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  5. Connect the negative battery cable, then reset the clock, radio and any other accessories.

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  1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
  2. Tag and disconnect the spark plug wires.
  3. Remove ignition coil attaching bolts, then the ignition coil from the module.

To install:
  1. Install the coil(s) and attaching bolts.
  2. Connect the spark plug wires.
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Fig. Fig. 2: Harmonic balancer with interrupter rings on C 3 I system
  1. Unplug the electrical connector from the sensor and remove the crankshaft sensor from the vehicle.

To install:
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Fig. Fig. 3: Dual crankshaft sensor - C 3 I system
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Fig. Fig. 4: Distributorless C 3 I positioning tool J-37089 for installing dual crankshaft sensor.system - 3.3L engine
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