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Security Module location

It appears my security system is not allowing my engine to crank. When I try to start all I hear is a click inside the dash. Everything works including the remote. Starter tested fine. Where is and how do I get to the module for the security system. For the past year the alarm has been going off on it's own about once a month and I come out to leave and the battery is dead. One more, Is the module coded to the key or would a module from another 99 Bonneville work if we know for sure it is good. Thanks in advance!

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Does the SECURITY light on the instrument cluster flash or is it on steady ? The problem with this system is the contacts inside the key lock cylinder wear causing this problem ! It's not the module more then likely ! This system you can do a by-pass on ! Measure the resistance of the pellet on the key , go to radio shack buy resistors to = the key pellet resistance . Find the wires from the ignition lock cylinder under the dash , disconnect the connector from the dash wiring harness an solder the resistors into the dash wiring , not to the lock cylinder . There are videos on youtube showing how to do this by-pass .
When a key is inserted in the ignition, contacts that are located in the steering column (ignition) lock cylinder contact a resistor pellet located in the ignition key. The theft deterrent module measures the resistance of the key pellet. The module compares this value to a value stored in memory. The theft deterrent module then performs one of the following functions:
• If the values match, the theft deterrent module performs the following system enable functions:
• The module provides a ground for the theft deterrent relay at terminal A4 (CKT 625, YEL/BLK). The ground enables the starter to operate.
• The module sends a proper pulse width modulated (PWM) signal to the PCM. The signal travels via CKT 229 (DK BLU), terminal A3. When the PCM receives this input, it enables the fuel delivery system.
• If the values do not match, the theft deterrent module performs the following system disable functions for approximately three minutes:
• No ground is provided to the theft deterrent relay. The starter is disabled.
• No command is given to the PCM in order to enable the fuel delivery system.

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SOURCE: I have a 99 pontiac bonneville ssei. recently had

driver side under hush panel 25amp fuse.-need to go into body control & pull code. did you try your second remote?

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SOURCE: 99 bonneville won't start

check starter for power...at connections

Anonymous

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SOURCE: My 2002 Pontiac Grand Am will not start. I have a

If it is a security issue a code will be stored. Until you check that a code is not stored then all suggestions will be a waste of time.
You really need a diagnostic scanner hooked up to see whats going on.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Dec 06, 2011

SOURCE: 06 pontiac grand prix wont start no clicking when you turn the key over even jump starting the battery, has dash lights & radio & parking lights. battery tested good. put a used starter & altinator on

Used parts such as starters and altinators don't last. It might **** but it sounds like you need to buy a new starter,altinator, and battery. Or just start with buying one at a time.

Testimonial: "kellertech1?? i tried something new.. my batt. was dead after sitting for 5hrs so i jumped it & later unhooked the batt. & hooked the batt. back up next day & car started ok kinda a weak start but started. so can a starter drain a batt or where should i look for a short or could this be a weak batt. that tested good but 2 weak 2 start the car."

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  • Posted on Feb 13, 2012

SOURCE: 2000 bonneville will not crank-battery good-starter good

Its probably ur fuel pump jus got mines fixed n then samething seemed to happen again n it was the alternator

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