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Replacement of cam and lifters.

We have a 1988 Subaru wagon 1.8 with bad lifters due to cam wear and want to replace them in the vehicle if possible. Is this a valid attempt.

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  • rme2008 Jan 26, 2009

    We know we can replace the cam and lifters but is it more feasable to lift the engine and do it or remove the radiator and do it.

  • rme2008 Jan 26, 2009

    Thank you We thought that was the better way but wasn't quite sure.



    Triker

  • rme2008 Jan 26, 2009

    Thank you We thought that was the better way but wasn't quite sure.



    Triker

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You can replace both and stop the lifter noise for the rest of the life of the car

  • Anonymous Jan 26, 2009

    remove the radiator

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