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Eliminating the a/c and shorten the belt

A/c has locked up now i'm trying to run a shorter belt do i have to remove the a/c?

  • Mike Butler
    Mike Butler May 11, 2010

    can you confirm engine & year first please? Will it freewheel when AC/defrost not on?

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If its a 2.7L you can bypass the AC with no problem. Did it to mine 6 months ago. Left compressor in place. Little hard to find right belt because all sebrings have AC. Went to napa bought 5 took the other 4 wrong ones back. LOL

  • spongesammy Oct 24, 2010

    2.7L bypass belt u said u bought 5 belts which one work for u and can u tell me the # of the belt u used and size thankz

  • Peter Huskilson Oct 05, 2011

    could you let me in on the napa part # ?

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U will need to buy the AC delete pulley (comes w/cars ordered Without AC) from the dealer so the belt will run correctly.

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