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Toggle switch attached to battery or starter

My Dad passed away and left me his 87 S10 pickup. He's wired a toggle switch that has to be turned on in order to start the truck. Can't tell what it's wired to or how to undo -- anybody heard of this or know what I can do to remove the toggle?

  • slwinter25 Jan 17, 2009

    A fellow by the name of Randy has been in email contact with me about the problem and been VERY helpful -- he's the greatest.

  • Mike Morgan Feb 28, 2014

    wished he could help me lol I have 1990 f150 on a toggle switch I repalced the ignition and the key tumlers and it will still only start on stupid toggle

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First of all i need to know if the vehicle will start without the toggle switch? if it does then you can just remove it if the vehicle will not start without turning the switch on you should know that the initial power is from this switch so mostly you have problem in the ignition switch and you have to repair or replace the ignition switch before yo disengage the toggle switch.

  • Mike Morgan Feb 28, 2014

    I replaced the ignition switch and it still wont start but will start with toggle?

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