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My left turn indicator works, but only if its not extended all the way about 2-3mm from it rest position

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Then the switch is damabed itself you wil have 2 buy a new 1 n replace it

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Fusefor indicators 2008 captiva

Your problem is not a fuse if just the right front isn't working , same for all indicators .
Turn Signal Lamps
The TURN fuse in the fuse block - I/P provides ignition positive voltage to the turn signal relay. The turn signal lamps may only be activated with the ignition switch in the ON position. When the turn signal switch is placed in either the left or right position, current flow is from the turn signal relay output to the turn signal switch assembly. The turn signal relay sends an ON-OFF voltage signal to either the left or right turn signals and their instrument panel cluster (IPC) indicator through the turn signal switch.

an it's not a bad relay , if there is no B+ voltage at the lamp you have an open circuit . You would need a wiring diagram to test circuit from turn lamp back to source voltage to find open . free wiring diagrams at www.bbbind.com . video on youtube testing voltage drop Mastering Voltage Drop Testing with Pete Meier and Jerry Truglia
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I have a 2002 Park Avenue my turn signals do not work my flashers work

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2002 Buick Park Avenue ' Park Avenue (VIN C) Service Manual ' Body and Accessories ' Lighting Systems ' Description and Operation ' Document ID: 643323


Turn Signal/Cornering Lamps
The HZDT/SIG fuse in the fuse block - underhood - left supplies battery positive voltage to the turn signal/hazard flasher module and have ground at G202. The turn signal lamps may only be activated with the ignition switch in the ON or ACCY position. The T/SIG fuse in the fuse block - underhood - left supplies battery positive voltage to the turn signal switch. When the turn signal switch is placed in either the left or right position, current flow is from the turn signal switch assembly to the turn signal/hazard flasher module. The turn signal/hazard flasher module then sends an on-off voltage signal to either the left or right turn signals and their instrument cluster (IPC) indicator. When the hazard switch is pressed, all the turn signal lamps will flash including both IPC turn signal indicators. The left turn signals have ground at G106, G400 and at G402. The right turn signals have ground at G105 and G400. The turn signal switch supplies battery positive voltage to the cornering lamps, the left cornering lamp has ground at G105 and the right cornering lamp has ground at G106.
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2002 Buick Park Avenue ' Park Avenue (VIN C) Service Manual ' Body and Accessories ' Lighting Systems ' Description and Operation ' Document ID: 643323
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My turn signals sometimes will quit working then I have to hit the hazard lights button leave it on and then turn my turn signals on then they work what causes this to happen

When the turn signals quit working pull up , down , front to back an back to front on the turn signal switch handle . Do they work when doing this ? Pontiac had bad switch . The power for the turn signals goes through the flasher / hazard module . Could be the switch or the module.
The HAZARD LPS fuse in the left hand instrument panel (LH IP) junction block supplies battery positive voltage to the flasher module, which is part of the hazard switch assembly. The TURN LPS fuse in the LH IP junction block supplies ignition positive voltage to the flasher module. The turn signal lamps may only be activated with the ignition switch in the ON position. When the turn signal switch is placed in either the left or right position, current flow is from the flasher module's output to the turn signal switch assembly. The flasher module then sends an on-off voltage signal to either the left or right turn signals and their instrument panel cluster (IPC) indicator. When the hazard switch is pressed, all the turn signal lamps will flash including both IPC turn signal indicators.
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Turn signals not working

all else on car works perfectly (other shoe drops??????)
waring 1: no scan tool, you will fail (99%)
is battery fully charged to 12.6vdc rested or at 10v?
all 4 corners dead?
not working means dead?, flashes too fast/slow or dim? or they stick on? (5 modes to fail not counting L/R and haz)
do the hazards work? (prime evidence and not stated)
most cars before 2007 have fuse marked TURN.
but not this car... its not at all like older cars....
did you scan it first after the fuse tests? any PCM scan tool.?
2009 WK jeep
the FSM chapter 8L shows the huge list of errors the lamps can fail. DTC errors.
in fact 8 blinker codes, ! DTC errors,

there is no fuse, just for turns, (trailer lamps fuse 19)

read this excerpt from the FSM book.

The turn signal system operates on battery current received on a fused ignition switch output (run) circuit so that the
turn signals will only operate with the ignition switch in the On position. The hazard warning system operates on
non-switched battery current received on a fused B(+) circuit so that the hazard warning remains operational regardless
of the ignition switch position. When the turn signal system is activated, the circuitry of the left multi-function
switch and the FCM will cause the selected (right or left) turn signal indicator, front park/turn signal lamp, front side
marker lamp and rear tail/stop/turn signal lamp to flash on and off. When the hazard warning system is activated,
the circuitry of the hazard warning switch and the FCM will cause both the right side and the left side turn signal
indicators, front park/turn signal lamps, front side marker lamps and rear tail/stop/turn signal lamps to flash on and
off. The Front Control Module (FCM) can also activate the hazard warning system lamps.
end quote)

the module front control MFC, runs this
and it uses fuse 18 , if 18 blows the module goes off line and vast things fail and huge numbers OF DTCs store.
and fuse 27 MFC
MFC needs these fuses good.
keep in mind nobody has MFC internal schematics...so........



this module drives left and right side front and rear.
electronic drivers, not fuses.
the MFC is here.
the fuses are 12,13,18, 20,27 that power MFC.


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How do I rest the Service indicator for a 2005 CLK Cabriolet? None of the suggestions listed below worked for me.

First make sure all of the doors, hood, trunk, etc are closed.
Turn the key to position 1
Press system select button(lower left buttons on the steering wheel) that looks like sheets of paper until you see mileage reading or temperature displayed.

Press the brightness button on the lower left instrument cluster 3 times. You should hear a signal and see voltage on the display.

Turn the key to position 2

Press the lower scroll forward/back button(steering left arrows)). You should see "service indicator" on the screen

Press the Brightness button again once. You should see oil type on the screen.

Select the oil grade you used by pressing the + & - buttons on the upper right on the steering wheel.

Press the scroll forward/backward button to confirm. Confirm oil reset, press R(brightness button on lower left on cluster) for 3 seconds should appear on the display.

Service confirmed should appear on the display.

Press the upper forward/backward button & "service indicator" appears on the display.

Press the upper system select button(lower left steering wheel button on left) The display should go back to basic mileage or temperature.

If all else fails. I believe the shortcut I took as a tech was, turn the key to the first position, scroll until you see the temperature or mileage displayed. Turn the key off, push in the brightness button and HOLD it while turning the key to the 2nd position. You should see something like do you want to reset service? press R(brightness) button for 3 seconds and it should reset.

Good luck. The newer cars are worse.
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2007 gmc heated mirror module

Could have a DDS an PDS .depends on what RPO code yours has >
Outside Mirror Description and Operation (with RPO DL3)
Or
Outside Mirror Description and Operation (without RPO DL3)
Without
Heated Outside Rearview Mirror Operation
The REAR DEFOG relay controls the operation of the heated outside rearview mirrors. When rear window defogging is requested, the REAR DEFOG relay is energized and B+ is applied to the supply voltage circuit of the mirror heater element, located in the mirror face. A constant ground is also applied to the mirror face. Current will pass through the mirror heater element, warming the mirror, so long as the rear window defogger is commanded ON.

With
Heated Outside Rearview Mirror
The DDS and PDS control the activation of the mirror heaters. Upon receiving a serial data message indicating a request for heated mirrors, the DDS and PDS, will apply voltage to the mirror heater element supply voltage circuit. The mirror heaters will remain active until a new message is received indicating rear defogger is to be deactivated.
The power mirror system consists of the following components:
• Driver Door Switch (DDS)--An electronic control module with integrated switches and requires programming when replaced
• Passenger Door Switch (PDS)--An electronic control module with integrated switches, requires programming when replaced
• Power Mirror Direction Switch--Integrated into DDS and is a four position momentary switch that provides a signal input to the DDS for up, down, left/extend and right/retract with a mirror switch activation
• Mirror Select Switch--Integrated into DDS and is a three position switch that allows the operator to select the left or right mirror and also a neutral/fold position
• Mirror Extend/Retract Switch--Integrated into DDS and is a two position switch that allows the operator to select the mirror extend or mirror retract position
• Left Outside Power Mirror--Contains both the vertical and horizontal mirror motors
• Right Outside Power Mirror--Contains both the vertical and horizontal mirror motors
• Body Control Module--An electronic control module that requires programming when replaced, serves as the power mode master and is the main message handler
• Horizontal and Vertical Position Sensors, if equipped with memory mirrors--Supplied a 5-volt and low reference by the DDS/PDS and provide a variable voltage signal to the DDS/PDS that is proportional to mirror position
• Folding Mirror Motor, in each of the outside mirrors, if equipped with power fold mirrors--Provides extend and retract movements of the mirror and is serviced as a complete mirror assembly
Your best bet mite be to take to a qualified repair shop , i really don't think you'll be able to do anything with it.
Do you have wiring diagrams so you know which wires to test ,do you know how to do electrical testing ?
The Driver Door Switch (DDS) and Passenger Door Switch (PDS) supply voltage to the outside rearview mirror heater elements upon receipt of a serial data message from the HVAC module indicating that the rear defrost system is active. The door switch supplies B+ through the driver/passenger mirror heating element supply voltage circuit when a request is seen. Ground is applied through the driver/passenger mirror heating low reference circuit.
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After replacing the wiper motor and linkage bushings on my Grand Voyager SE, the wiper arms stop in the straight up position when ''at rest''. Help please

Remove the arms,and place them back on where they need to go,do not turn the wipers on,do this as they set now.If the wiper blades when turned on go off the left side of the windshield ,then you will have to remove everything again,and move the wipers down in the rest position,and align everything up to the rest position,with the wipers at rest,and the motor at rest.
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2003 gmc mirrors do not fold in

The power mirrors are controlled by a module (computer) DDM - drivers door module an the PDM - passenger door module .
Folding Mirror System
Folding Mirror System Controls
The folding mirror system requires signals from 2 separate switches. The mirror select switch must be in the neutral/fold position and the mirror direction switch must be activated to the left/extend or right/retract positions. Both switches are integrated into the DDM and provide direct signals.
Folding Mirror System Operation
Upon receipt of the required switch inputs the DDM will supply battery voltage and ground to the mirror fold motor control circuits to perform the requested extend or retract function. The DDM will also send a class 2 message to the PDM indicating the requested function. The PDM will supply battery voltage and ground to the mirror fold motor control circuits to perform the requested extend or retract function.

Power Mirror System
Power Mirror System Components
The power mirror system consists of the following components:
• The driver door module--Class 2 module with integrated switches and requires programming when replaced
• The passenger door module--Class 2 module with integrated switches, requires programming when replaced and also contains the RFA receiver
• The power mirror direction switch--Integrated into DDM and is a 4-position momentary switch that provides a signal input to the DDM for up, down, left/extend and right/retract with a mirror switch activation
• The mirror select switch--Integrated into DDM and is a 3-position switch that allows the operator to select the left or right mirror and also a neutral/fold position
• The left outside power mirror--Contains both the vertical and horizontal mirror motors and is serviced as a complete mirror assembly
• The right outside power mirror--Contains both the vertical and horizontal mirror motors and is serviced as a complete mirror assembly
• The body control module--Class 2 module that requires programming when replaced, serves as the power mode master and is the main message handler
• The DDM 10A fuse--Located in the I/P fuse block and is hot at all times
• The PDM 10A fuse--Located in the I/P fuse block and is hot at all times
• The memory switch, if equipped with memory mirrors--Supplied power by the DDM and provides a voltage signal to the DDM upon a switch activation
• The horizontal and vertical position sensors, if equipped with memory mirrors--Supplied a 5-volt and low reference by the DDM/PDM and provide a variable voltage signal to the DDM/PDM that is proportional to mirror position
• The park neutral position switch, if equipped with memory mirrors--Provides transmission gear selection information to the PCM and is used for memory recall and mirror tilt in reverse functions
• The powertrain control module, if equipped with memory mirrors--Class 2 module that requires programming when replaced and provides Class 2 message indicating transmission gear selection
• The driver information center (DIC), if equipped with memory mirrors--Part of the instrument cluster which is a Class 2 module that requires programming when replaced and is used to personalize the memory recall and mirror tilt in reverse functions
• Fold motor in each of the outside mirrors, if equipped with power fold mirrors--Provides extend and retract movements of the mirror and is serviced as a complete mirror assembly
Each of the outside power mirrors contains 2 reversible motors to provide horizontal and vertical movement of the mirror glass. The vertical motor operates the up and down directions and the horizontal motor operates the left and right directions. If equipped with power folding mirrors, each outside power mirror will contain a reversible fold motor to operate the extend and retract functions. Each of the mirror motors are circuit breaker protected.
DTC B1722
The driver door module (DDM) and passenger door module (PDM) switch the mirror fold motor control circuits to battery voltage and ground in response to mirror extend or retract command.
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