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Anonymous Posted on Sep 26, 2012

W124 230E problem starting cold

Problem starting at cold temperature, but idling okay once temperature normal. Suspect problem with fuel injection system, possibly a cold switch

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on May 15, 2008

SOURCE: missfire

Locate you computer (right front kick panel) and tap on it with a pen while the car idles... Also flex it back and forth with your hands to see if the car runs rough or quits... You may need a new one.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 29, 2009

SOURCE: 2000 Nissan Altima temperature gauge and heater problem

sounds like you need to replace the thermostat.

Tomi Tuohioja

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  • Posted on May 08, 2009

SOURCE: My 1998 Peugeot 406 starts okay when cold but

I have 1996 Peugeot 406 (1.8 16v) and it's ignition coil pack was broken and the starting was difficult when the car was warm.  

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Sep 27, 2009

SOURCE: 1986 Honda Accord DX - too high idle on cold start

1986-1989 Honda Accord with Carburetor have a very bad habit that is little known even by most mechanics but easily fixed at home. The vacuum port on the choke opener that is connected to the intake manifold and both vacuum ports on the fast idle unloader get plugged up with nasty hard carbon almost as hard as metal. When this happens the choke sticks closed and the idle sticks on fast idle when the engine is cold and nobody can figure out why. All you have to do is attach a small drill bit to the end of a flexible socket-driver extension and put it in a variable speed drill that will let you run it real slow and carefully drill out the vacuum ports that are plugged. After they are nice and clean use a vacuum pump tester to make sure the choke opener and fast idle unloader are working before putting it all back together. It's amazing how much better the car runs after cleaning out those ports.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Nov 09, 2009

SOURCE: mercedes e230 1998. cold starting.

Mercedes has a cold start valve to spray extra fuel to assist the ignition when the temperature is cold. This is the problem with the cold start valve is not opened when it needed. There are 2 possible causes: 1- The valve is bad. 2- The coolant temperature sensor is bad.
The valve part is expensive and labor is not cheap. The first economic way to address is to replace the coolant temperature sensor. This sensor gives a different resistance reading as temperature changed. When it is bad, it give an erratic reading at cold temperature so the ECM could not recognize to give a signal to open the Cold start valve.

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Truck won't start when its cold but start fine when it is warm 93 Chevy 4.3

Here's some FYI on your situation. When you turn the switch on, all sensors are activated. One sensor is the cold start switch/temperature sending unit. When working properly, the sensor will send a pulse to the computer telling it to put the engine into cold start mode. Once this is done, a bit more fuel is added to the normal amount to the cylinders and the throttle is advanced slightly making the engine idle a bit faster for the extra fuel coming in. The engine is running to warm-up and the sensor then tells the computer to set the engine back to normal run mode. Once the engine is warm, the sensor is not being used for cold start mode. It will start right up and run smoothly. Now, since your truck is hard to start when cold, first thing you should check is the temperature sending unit wire connection first. if that connection is good, replace the temperature sending unit/sensor, and you'll be good to go. That's a simple repair that must be done when it gets hard to start when cold.
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Bad fuel economy and lumpy idling - possibly causes

<p><b><u><span>Excessive fuel consumption and 'lumpy' idling engine</span></u></b><br /> <p><b><span>Possible faults:-</span></b><br /> <p><b><u><br /></u></b><br /> <p><b><u><span>Coolant sensor </span></u></b><span><span> </span>- engine is signaled as being 'cold' all the time, not just at start up, causing ECU to set longer injection cycle </span><br /> <p><span><span>&oslash;<span> </span></span></span><span>Low coolant level can prevent sensor being able to detect coolant temperature</span><br /> <p><span><span>&oslash;<span> </span></span></span><span>Faulty 'open' thermostat allows coolant to circulate without regulation and perhaps prevents the engine from achieving normal running temperatures.</span><br /> <p><span> </span><br /> <p><b><u><span>FPR</span></u></b><span> - broken diaphragm allows fuel to enter the vacuum line and then into the inlet manifold. Additional source of fuel makes the fuel air mix richer causing a faster and lumpy idle.</span><br /> <p><span> </span><br /> <p><b><u><span>Vacuum leak </span></u></b><span>- 'high oxygen' signal from O2 sensor causes ECU to set longer injection cycle.</span><br /> <p><span> </span><br /> <p><b><u><span>O2 sensor</span></u></b><span> - 'high oxygen' sensor error causes ECU to set longer fuel injection cycle</span><br /> <p><span> </span><br /> <p><b><u><span>MAF</span></u></b><span> - 'over reads' in error the amount of air entering causing ECU to set longer fuel injection cycle </span><br /> <p><span> </span><br /> <p><b><u><span>IAT</span></u></b><span> - 'under reads' in error the temperature of incoming air causing ECU to set longer fuel injection cycle</span><br /> <p><span> </span><br />
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It was very cold, the car sat in the garage for 3 days with very lower fuel, now it idles rough and sounds rough, did I ruin something by not having enough fuel when cold?

No,low fuel isn't your problem. If there's enough fuel for the fuel pump to pick up your car should run okay. You haven't ruined anything. It's not your fault.

It is possible that a low fuel level - very low indeed - has allowed debris/dirt into the system and is causing a blockage. However, I think this is quite unlikely to be the problem you have.

You say the car idles rough - does it drive at speed okay? If it drives okay at speed you can rule out most fuel problems .. most.

Backtrack a bit .. has your car ever ran/idled roughly before? Cold weather can exacerbate a problem.

It could be the cold weather- fuel and injections system have cold start devices or sensors of one sort or another. It may be a faulty sensor. Get somebody to do a diagnostic check for you
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Truck runs okay when cold, but once it's hot it shuts off while driving down the road. It'll crank back up, but shuts off more frequently.

Hi.

There may be different reasons for the problem. Start checking from the IAT sensor located in the air intake. the IAT sensor determines the amount of air to be injected in relation to air temperature. A defective sensor will commonly result in temperature-related problems.

Do also a code scanning, check MAF sensor, look for vacuum leaks and check fuel pressure when the problem occurs. A defective fuel pump may fail when hot.
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My 2000 Grand Prix GTP runs great. However, the gas mileage has dropped to maybe 120-130 miles per tank and at idle there is a very strong odor of gas inside and around the car..noticed no drips on...

Following list of possible faults should help:-

Coolant sensor - engine is signaled as being 'cold' all the time, not just at start up, causing ECU to set longer injection cycle

? Low coolant level can prevent sensor being able to detect coolant temperature

? Faulty 'open' thermostat allows coolant to circulate without regulation and perhaps prevents the engine from achieving normal running temperatures.


FPR - broken diaphragm allows fuel to enter the vacuum line and then into the inlet manifold. Additional source of fuel makes the fuel air mix richer causing a faster and lumpy idle.


Vacuum leak - 'high oxygen' signal from O2 sensor causes ECU to set longer injection cycle.


O2 sensor - 'high oxygen' sensor error causes ECU to set longer fuel injection cycle


MAF - 'over reads' in error the amount of air entering causing ECU to set longer fuel injection cycle


IAT - 'under reads' in error the temperature of incoming air causing ECU to set longer fuel injection cycle

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My car Nissan 2.4 SE d/c year 2006, petrol, fuel injection has been giving me problems lately. a couple of years ago it started by smoking (black smoke), fuel consumption was too much, revs were...

Possible faults:-


Coolant sensor - engine is signaled as being 'cold' all the time, not just at start up, causing ECU to set longer injection cycle

? Low coolant level can prevent sensor being able to detect coolant temperature

? Faulty 'open' thermostat allows coolant to circulate without regulation and perhaps prevents the engine from achieving normal running temperatures.

To check put a voltmeter across the coolant sensor connections and there should be a difference between the engine being cold and hot. If not the sensor is faulty. Check sensor connections and wiring.



FPR - broken diaphragm allows fuel to enter the vacuum line and then into the inlet manifold. Additional source of fuel makes the fuel air mix richer causing a faster and lumpy idle. To check the FPR have the engine at idle and pull the vacuum line off it. If the FPR is healthy the engine will pick up in revs for a few seconds and then settle back to a very lumpy idle. If fuel dribbles out of the vacuum line then replace the FPR.


Vacuum leak - 'high oxygen' signal from O2 sensor causes ECU to set longer injection cycle. Check all hoses and connections with the inlet manifold. Check the inlet manifold to block junction and around injector ports. A small squirt of WD40 on suspect areas will cause the engine to momentarily pick up in revs if there is a leak.


O2 sensor - 'high oxygen' sensor error causes ECU to set longer fuel injection cycle. A voltmeter across the sensor pins should show above 200mV (note this is AC voltage). Check again when hot as the sensor can fail progressively and lose voltage as it gets hotter.


MAF - 'over reads' in error the amount of air entering causing ECU to set longer fuel injection cycle. Located in the collar next to the air filter box on the air ducting. Make sure the MAF is clean, do not touch, just spray it with electrical cleaner when it is off the car. The MAF has three wires (0volts; 5 volts supply; signal). Check that the signal voltage varies according to engine speed (air being sucked in). If not change it


IAT - 'under reads' in error the temperature of incoming air causing ECU to set longer fuel injection cycle. often co-located with the MAF but can be nearer the throttle on the air ducting. Has two wires. Unplug the IAT from the ducting and check that its resistance changes when you blow on it. Give it clean with electrical cleaner spray. If not change it



Hope the above check list helps.

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MY BMW 318I 88/89 MODEL WILL NOT START IN THE MORNING ONLY IF I RUNNING START IT,AND SOMTIMES IN THE EVENING. CAN YOU PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS MATTER.BRUCE

Hi Bruce
Take the vehicle for a scan and I'm fairly sure the fault will be recorded as a defective temperature sensor. Once that is replaced I think the problem will be solved. What happens is the sensor signals the injection system to allow more fuel for starting when cold and at the moment it can't know if the engine is hot or cold, so it injects for an engine at operating temp. (When cold the engine needs more fuel to be able to start)
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Alfa 164 loses power on accelleration when hot. acts like its flooding and stalling. idles ok when put in neutral but once in drive, it tries to stall. on intitial start up it's fine, but within 10 minutes...

The fuel injection has an engine temperature sensor that is supposed to make the mixture very rich when cold, but then leaner as it warms up. If the thermal resistor is burned out, then it will have too much resistance all the time, and the engine will be flooded out. Use an ohmmeter to measure the temperature sensor resistance. I don't remember the exact values, but bad ones often times go 0 or infinite. And you should see it vary with temperature.
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1975 Datsun (ie. mechanical fuel pump). Carburettor, electrics (inc. battery all good) fuel strainer all good. On cold start engine needs to be cranked several times. Warm start is invariably immediate. ...

Carburated vehicles ether have an automatic choke, or the very old ones, a hand choke. Yours has an automatic choke. The starting problem likely is a problem with the choke. The problem is almost certainly not the fuel pump.To set the automatic choke, push the accelerator to the floor, and RELEASE. Then start the engine just like you would a fuel injected vehicle. If this doesn't solve the problem, then the automatic choke needs to be repaired.
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86 Ford F350 Cold Start Problem

Does it have a carburetor or is it fuel injected? In 1986 it could be either way. It sounds like a carburetor with a choke problem.
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