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Anonymous Posted on Sep 06, 2012

No compression on cylinder #2 after putting a new (remanufactured) cylinder head and pistons/rings

I did replaced the old cylinder head cause the old one was all messed up after a valve seat came off and broke the piston, etc. I got a remanufactured cylinder head that came with the valves and springs installed and after putting everything back together the Jeep still misfires in the same cylinder #2. I get compression readings of only 20-30psi. Already checked timing chain, admission, etc. What else could it be causing this ?

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Hello! We have a 2010 Jeep Libeety with the 3.7. We are having the exact same issue with outs and we are extremely boggled by it and we cannot figure out why. This is a month old head. The valves are not bent. We have tried everything advised above except for the cylinder leak down test. We will be trying that tomorrow. We are also doing the valve and intake springs even though they're perfectly fine. If anyone could help us out its be greatly appreciated as we've been working on this truck for almost 2 months.

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You did not mention about replacing a piston you said was broken? if you did not there is the cause of you low compression. either way if you did change it out and did not measure the ring end gap and put the right size ring in the hole then it looses compression, if you failed to resurface the cylinder and just put in a set of rings then they wont seat for a while. In addition. length of push rod? was cam follower collapsed? did you change? How about the connecting rod of the piston? the one that was in there more than likely got squashed and isn't coming up to full compression Sounds to me like you need to take the head off again and check out a few more things Sorry!

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    I did replace the piston with new rings. The rings look more like a general brand not the ones from the dealer. Anyway the gap for each ring was measured and seem ok after we resurfased the cylinder. I reused the old connecting rod. The cam follower didn't collapse and didn't replace it. I sent the cylinder head back for a replacement and if this doesn't solve it, I will have to do a full compression test using a more advance equipment I guess. Any other ideas ? Thanks.

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SOURCE: out of time and blowen valve gasket, No pressure in #1 Spark plug

Changed the cylinder head gasket or valve cover gasket? Did timing chain fail or did it overheat? (can't draw a correlation between the two) If chain failed you may have bent a valve. I believe you have to go at this step by step. from what you wrote, you are not going in one direction that isn't productive. Test compression with a gauge, if you can, have a leakdown test done. You may have other problems as well and I don't see where you did anything about the cause of the overheat??? If you can, have someone with some experience help you "hands on".
Good luck I'll answer whatever I can from this end.

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a common issue on this engine is the intake manifold leaking oil into the intake ports on the heads, they also have valve seal problems,the easiet way to determine the ring condition is to do a cylinder leak down test, a shop can run this test for about $100

Anonymous

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need to check your cowl pack over the spark plugs and the intake manifold to see if it loose and the vaccum lines and give these websites a try www.alldatadiy.com and www.autozone.com if all fails stop by your local library and get your hands on a Haynes auto repair manual for your Jeep wish you the best of luck Michigan Man.

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SOURCE: just rebuilt my motor in my 1999 jeep grad

intake not sealed .

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  • Posted on Sep 09, 2011

SOURCE: how many pounds of preasure is there on the

your motor even used with mileage should have at least a compression of 125 lbs per cylinder, new they have 137.12 lbs of combustion per cylinder. The sad thing is, normally when a timing chain goes bad, so do some of the valves, if you only have 25 lbs in the cylinders your mechanic is probably right, sorry to say .

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Have a spark plug not firing.

Are you sure it's actually a plug?
Are you getting oil on the plug?
The plug may be firing but you may be losing compression which gives the symptoms of a misfire. As you've changed the plug, lead and coil this points to to a problem elsewhere.

Your first course of action should be to get a mobile mechanic carry out a diagnostic check for you.

To put your mind at rest, do a 2nd compression test using a light oil squirted into the bores:

Doing a Compression Test
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Here's the same engine:
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