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Anonymous Posted on Aug 09, 2012

My convertible top will not latch to the tonneau when up and the tonneau latch will not hook when down

There is a clicking sound when it should latch but won't latch. The 5th bow is cocked up and will not close down to the tonneau

  • Anonymous Aug 10, 2012

    I sprayed everything wd40 no luck. I have traces the noise to the tonneau motor and the little flapper on driver side broke off. maybe that has something to do with the 5th bow not lowering

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Use a spray white grease and clean and lube all the moving parts of the top, all of them, then retry.

  • Marvin
    Marvin Aug 10, 2012

    Anything is possible. Wish you had mentioned what you did already.

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SOURCE: 1998 saab convertible roof closing fault 2.3 900

There are numerous technical service bulletins issued for the top. The list with the full TSBs is here.

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