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Engine turns over does not fire vcm displays code 17 fuel

Engine turns over good.not firing at all.fuel pump relay clicks on with ignition switch.engine ran eratic(like at throttle pot issue) intermitent problem.shut down went to restart turns over did not fire.tried again next day fired for 2 seconds.would not and still does not fire ?

  • chewykim Feb 15, 2009

    there is a red light next to the oil light on the dash that was not ever on

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Sounds like the coil is bad

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You need to follow a detailed troubleshooting procedure in a repair manual.
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