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Gio Flores Posted on Jul 26, 2012
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Windshield wipers don't turn on unless washer fluid button is activated

I turn the wiper switch and the wipers don't turn on. The wipers work, however, when the switch is pressed down so that washer fluid comes out. The 30amp fuse is fine. Both wiper relays in the box seem fine since I swapped each with a spare one at a time and didn't correct the problem. I went to a junk yard and bought a turn signal / wiper switch and swapped them out, only to find that *that* wasn't the problem. I'm trying to find schematics online but I figured I could look for an answer here too. Can anyone help? I've only got 6 days to get the van inspected!

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According to the wiring diagram, it looks like the switch sends a signal to the body computer and it turns on the wiper-on relay. That relay is powered by a 30amp fuse. If you are sure the switch is working, it looks like the problem may be in the computer. I would get a second opinion before replacing anything else.

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SOURCE: Windshield wiper fluid not coming out

get someone else to feel if the eletiric pump on the bottom of the fluid bottle is working.
other faults see if the lines going from the bottle to the nossils are not cut or split check the nossils are not blocked use a pin of some type.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 28, 2009

SOURCE: Windshield wiper and turn signals don't work.

I have seen this problem several times and it was the assembly under the steering wheel at the top of the steering column. There are many electrical connections in there for turn signals, wipers, horn, headlight dimmer, etc. The electrical contacts could be dirty and not conducting current or they could be misalligned or broken or just plain worn out.

If you're up to it, take steering wheel off and take a look. If there is an airbag, and you've never removed one of those, I wouldn't even start -- take it back to the shop and tell them what you suspect the problem to be.

wade dunlap

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  • Posted on Jul 03, 2009

SOURCE: my headlights,windshield wipers, and turn signals wont work

check all your fuses. replace any and all bad ones. if fuse blows again u have a short somewher

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jul 28, 2009

SOURCE: Windshield wipers and Turn Signals Do Not Work Intermittently

It sounds like the multifunction switch has had it. It is not real expensive but there may be under lying electrical problems

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Windshield Wiper/Washer System Components
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Principles of Operation
The windshield wiper motor receive inputs from the following:
  • multifunction switch
  • lighting control module (LCM)
  • ignition switch
  • battery junction box (BJB)
  • central junction box (CJB)
The following components are integrated into the windshield wiper motor:
  • windshield wiper motor module
  • high/low speed relay
  • run/park sensor (Hall effect)
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High Speed Windshield Wipers
High speed is activated when the multifunction switch supplies ground to the windshield wiper motor module inputs. The windshield wiper motor module then supplies ground to the run/park sensor and high/low relay coil, activating the relay with voltage supplied from the ignition switch (RUN/ACC) through the central junction box (CJB). When the windshield wiper motor module receives voltage from the run/park sensor, it removes ground from the run/park sensor, deactivating it. The windshield wiper motor continues to operate from voltage connected through the run/park sensor until the Hall effect senses the magnet in the motor. When the Hall effect senses the magnet in motor the windshield wiper motor returns to the park position, the internal run/park sensor grounds the windshield wiper motor module input and the windshield wiper motor module removes ground from the windshield wiper high/low relay coil, deactivating the high/low relay and windshield wiper motor. The windshield wiper motor module continues to cycle the windshield wipers until the inputs from the multifunction switch are changed from the high speed position.
Low Speed Windshield Wipers
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Intermittent Speed Windshield Wipers
The intermittent wiper speed is activated with grounds controlled by the multifunction switch inputs to the windshield wiper motor module. The windshield wiper motor module then activates the windshield wiper run/park relay coil and switches voltage through the windshield wiper high/low relay. The high/low relay remains deactivated, supplying the voltage to the wiper motor low speed input and activates the windshield wiper motor. When the windshield wiper motor module receives the grounded input, the motor continues to operate until Hall effect sensors senses the wiper motors magnet, which turns off the run/park sensor output to the windshield wiper run/park software, deactivating the relay and disconnecting voltage to the wiper motor. The windshield wipers remain parked until the windshield wiper motor module completes a time-out and then repeats the intermittent windshield wiper cycle.
Washer System
The windshield washer is activated by the internal wiper motor module when it receives a ground from the multifunction switch between the washer input. Dependent on the correct ground, the internal wiper motor modules activates the windshield washer relay (internal) by grounding the respective relay coil. When the relay is activated, it connects voltage to the washer pump while the washer level switch provides ground to the washer pump.
Default Mode
The windshield wiper motor defaults to this mode when the run/park sensor does not sense the hall effect magnet inside wiper motor. This can be caused by obstruction of the windshield wipers or a binding linkage. The windshield wiper motor will continue to operate in a high/low speed condition for a period of 60 seconds.

Symptom Chart
Symptom Chart Condition Possible Sources Action
  • The wipers are inoperative
  • Multifunction switch
  • Circuitry
  • Ignition switch
  • Windshield wiper motor
  • Go To Pinpoint Test A .

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PINPOINT TEST A: THE WIPERS ARE INOPERATIVE Test Step Result / Action to Take A1 CHECK CIRCUITS 65 (DG) AND 2025 (RD/YE) FOR VOLTAGE
  • Key in OFF position.
  • Disconnect: Windshield Wiper Motor C125.
  • Key in ON position.
  • Measure the voltage between windshield wiper C125 pin 5, circuit 2025 (RD/YE), harness side and ground; and between windshield wiper motor C125 pin 8, circuit 65 (DG), harness side and ground.
  • Are the voltages greater than 10 volts?
Yes
GO to A2 .

No
REPAIR the circuit(s) in question. TEST the system for normal operation. A2 CHECK CIRCUITS 57 (BK) AND 676 (PK/OG) FOR OPENS
  • Key in OFF position.
  • Measure the resistance between windshield wiper C125 pin 6, circuit 57 (BK), harness side and ground; and between windshield wiper motor C125 pin 3, circuit 676 (PK/OG), harness side and ground.
  • Are the resistances less than 5 ohms?
Yes
GO to A3 .

No
REPAIR the circuit(s) in question. TEST the system for normal operation. A3 CHECK THE MULTIFUNCTION SWITCH
  • Disconnect: Multifunction Switch C202b.
  • Carry out the multifunction switch component test. Refer to Wiring Diagrams Cell 149 for schematic and connector information.
  • Does the multifunction switch pass the component test?
Yes
GO to A4 .

No
INSTALL a new multifunction switch. REFER to Section 211-05 . A4 CHECK CIRCUIT 57 (BK) FOR AN OPEN
  • Measure the resistance between C202b pin 5, circuit 57 (BK), harness side and ground.
  • Is the resistance less than 5 ohms?
Yes
GO to A5 .

No
REPAIR the circuit. TEST the system for normal operation. A5 CHECK CIRCUITS 56 (DB/OG), 58 (WH), 61 (YE/RD), AND 63 (RD) FOR OPENS
  • Using the following table, measure the resistance between the multifunction switch C202b harness side and the windshield wiper motor C125 harness side:

    Multifunction Switch C202b Windshield Wiper Motor C125 pin 6, circuit 56 (DB/OG) pin 10, circuit 56 (DB/OG) pin 3, circuit 58 (WH) pin 11, circuit 58 (WH) pin 1, circuit 61 (YE/RD) pin 1, circuit 61 (YE/RD) pin 4, circuit 63 (RD) pin 9, circuit 63 (RD)
  • Are the resistances less than 5 ohms?
Yes
GO to A6 .

No
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  • Disconnect all wiper motor connectors.
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  • Operate the system and verify the concern is still present.
  • Is the concern still present?
Yes
GO to A7 .

No
The system is operating correctly at this time. The concern may have been caused by a loose or corroded connector. TEST the system for normal operation. A7 CHECK THE WINDSHIELD WIPER MOTOR
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  • Disconnect: Windshield Wiper Motor C125.
  • Carry out the windshield wiper motor component test as outlined in this section.
  • Does the windshield wiper motor pass the component test?
Yes
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Wiper/Washer System Components
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• Windshield washer pump motor
• Windshield wiper motor
• Windshield wiper motor module
• Windshield wiper/washer switch
• Wiper/washer switch 10A fuse
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Wash Operation (Front and Rear Wipers)
The front and rear washer systems use the same windshield washer fluid pump. When either the front or rear wiper is in the washer position voltage will be supplied to one side of the windshield washer fluid pump (depending on whether it is front or rear), while the other side of the pump is grounded.
At this point, the windshield washer fluid pump sprays solvent onto the windshield. When the front or rear washer is activated, the BCM receives an input from the switch that is activated. The BCM will control the wipers while in the WASH mode. The BCM will control either the front wiper relay or the rear wiper relay to turn on the wipers. The windshield wipers operate at low speed for 3 swipes and returns to the park position.

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turn OFF the ignition.
Disconnect the harness electrical connector of the windshield washer fluid pump.
Connect a test lamp from the windshield washer pump control circuit to a good ground .
Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
Press the front washer switch.
Does the test lamp illuminate?
YES or NO !
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When the windshield wiper / washer switch is turned to the OFF position while the wiper motor is somewhere in mid-cycle, the wiper motor module will continue to operate the wiper motor until the wipers reach the park position. If the ignition is turned off while the wipers are in mid-cycle, the wipers will stop immediately where they are. The wipers will park the next time the ignition is cycled to the ON position.

Schematic Reference: Wiper/Washer Schematics


1

Did you review the Wiper/Washer System Description and Operation and perform the necessary inspections?
Go to Step 2
Go to Symptoms - Wiper/Washer Systems

2

  1. Turn the ignition ON.
  2. Turn the windshield wiper/washer switch OFF.
Are the windshield wipers always on?
Go to Step 3
Go to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections in Wiring Systems

3

Disconnect the windshield wiper/washer switch connector.
Are the windshield wipers always on?
Go to Step 4 if yes
Go to Step 7 if no

4

  1. Disconnect the windshield wiper motor connector.
  2. Test the windshield wiper switch signal 1 circuit for a short to voltage. Refer to Circuit Testing and to Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Did you find and correct the condition?
Go to Step 11
Go to Step 5

5

Test the windshield wiper switch signal 2 circuit for a short to voltage. Refer to Circuit Testing and to Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Did you find and correct the condition?
Go to Step 11
Go to Step 6

6

Test the windshield wiper motor high speed circuit for a short to voltage. Refer to Circuit Testing and to Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Did you find and correct the condition?
Go to Step 11
Go to Step 9

7

Inspect for poor connections at the windshield wiper/washer switch. Refer to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections and to Connector Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Did you find and correct the condition?
Go to Step 11
Go to Step 8

8

Replace the windshield wiper/washer switch. Refer to Windshield Wiper and Washer Switch Replacement - On Vehicle in Steering Wheel and Column.
Is the repair complete?
Go to Step 11
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9

Inspect for poor connections at the windshield wiper motor. Refer to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections and to Connector Repairs in Wiring Systems.
Did you find and correct the condition?
Go to Step 11
Go to Step 10

10

Replace the windshield wiper motor. Refer to Windshield Wiper Motor Replacement .
Is the repair complete?
Go to Step 11
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11

Operate the system in order to verify the repair.
Did you correct the condition?
The Wiper / Washer System consists of the following components:
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Windshield wiper / washer switch


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Windshield wiper system module / motor


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Windshield washer fluid pump


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Windshield washer fluid level switch


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Instrument panel cluster (IPC)


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ACC 15-amp fuse


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WSW 30-amp fuse

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Principles of Operation
NOTE: The generic electronic module (GEM) will not activate the rear wiper system if either the liftgate or the liftgate glass is ajar. If either the liftgate or the liftgate glass becomes ajar while the rear wiper is in operation, the GEM will park the rear wiper motor.
There are two distinct modes of wiper operation:
  • Off Mode: In this mode, there is no rear wiper activity, and the wiper motor will be in the PARK position.
  • Interval Mode: This mode is selected when the rear wiper switch is in either the Interval 1 or 2 position. When this mode is selected, the rear wiper motor is driven up onto the glass by activating the rear wiper UP relay. When the wiper motor HIGH/LOW/PARK position input reaches the high position, the UP relay is deactivated and the DOWN relay is activated to reverse the wiper motor direction. When the wiper motor reaches the LOW position, as determined by the HIGH/LOW/PARK position input, the GEM deactivates the DOWN relay and will begin a new wiper cycle 1 to 10 seconds later, depending on the interval position selected.
To engage the rear window washer, rotate the rear window washer selector downward to the WASH position. The rear window wiper will run as long as the WASH position is selected. When the rear window washer selector returns to the OFF, INT 1 or INT 2 position, the washer will stop immediately, but the rear window wiper will continue for two to three sweeps and then return to its previous mode of operation.
The low washer fluid indicator chime warns that the washer fluid level is low. The low washer fluid indicator chime is a single tone with a duration of one second. The chime will sound when the low washer fluid indicator is initially activated.
The low washer fluid indicator warns that the fluid level in the washer reservoir is low. The low washer fluid indicator will illuminate when the washer fluid level is low and the ignition switch is in the RUN position.
The low washer fluid indicator will deactivate when the washer fluid reservoir is filled and the ignition switch has been cycled from RUN to OFF, then to RUN.
Inspection and Verification
  1. The wiper/washer system is a generic electronic module (GEM) controlled system; refer to Section 419-10 .
  1. Verify the customer concern by operating the wiper/washer system.
  1. Visually inspect for obvious signs of mechanical and electrical damage.


Visual Inspection Chart Mechanical Electrical
  • Hoses to windshield washer pump
  • Wiper linkage
  • Fuses 6 (5A), 8 (5A), 15 (5A), and 20 (5A)
  • Wiring harness
  • Loose or corroded connector(s)
  • Relays
  • Motors
  • Multifunction switch
  • Washer fluid level switch


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  • The wipers are inoperative — rear
  • Fuses 6 (5A), 8 (5A), 15 (5A), and 20 (5A).
  • Circuitry.
  • GEM.
  • Multifunction switch (wiper/washer switch).
  • Rear wiper up relay.
  • Rear wiper down relay.
  • Rear wiper motor.
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