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Starting problem when engine is cold (2.5tdi)

Already changed battery, starter, glowing plugs, battery connectors and engine cable. I'm thinking about fuel injector or air intake ? The car runs really fine when started( the difficult part) and starts easily when the engine is hot. Problem known ? Some tips ? Thanks for any help.

  • Anonymous Jul 21, 2012

    Run the data on it to see if the coolant sensor is in the negative,if so check for noose or open circuit

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Have the injectors overhauled by a professional diesel shop
indications are that they are squirting and nit atomizing as required for a cold engine

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  • Posted on Aug 26, 2008

SOURCE: Engine starts very difficult and

sounds like you have a bad temp sensor that mounted in the thermostat housing /get VOLVO to read the codes

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  • Posted on Aug 26, 2008

SOURCE: Lambda Sensor or Air Mass Meter?

replace the temp sensor in the thermostat housing behind alt(2 wires)

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  • Posted on Jan 22, 2010

SOURCE: 93 volvo 850 glt changed the fuel pump now car

Check your fuel pressure to ensure proper pressure to the block, also did you replace the fuel filter.

On a side note: 3 things a automobile needs to run

AIR-make sure you have a clean air filter and your MAF (mass air flow sensor is plugged in) if you pulled your breather to innspect anything, there is a possibility that it came unplugged or you unpluged it and forgot to hook it back up, a car wont start without it being plugged in if equiped

SPARK-Make sure your car has juice to the plugs, if the plug doesnt fire the car wont run, if you have to pull each plug and ground them to the engine block to see if they arch. If not trace the problem down (if you changed the fuel pump you have some mechanical skill and should be able to troubleshoot a spark issue)

FUEL-Check for proper pressure, dirty fuel filter(s) and if your system has a return line, make sure your hoses didnt get crossed cause this will damage the engine and regulator.

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Relay Operation
Install a DVOM on the glow plug feed side of the glow plug relay (large stud with two wires connected). Turn the ignition key to the ON position but do not attempt to start. Note the time in seconds from when the key is turned on and the glow plug relay energizes until the glow plug relay de-energizes. The glow plug relay makes a loud click noise which is easily heard when it energizes and de-energizes. The dome light will dim and the dash voltmeter will dip when the glow plugs are drawing current from the battery. Compare the times measured to the table (time will be affected by engine temperature, battery condition and vehicle altitude). The voltage at the glow plug feed terminal may vary from 9 to 12 volts depending upon battery condition.
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