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Anonymous Posted on Apr 30, 2012

My ignition lock cylinder wont turn on my 2002 saturn sl2 how do I remove the cylinder without drilling

I tried wiggling it while turning the steering left and right, I've had the key replaced by a locksmith and still NO LUCK! We took apart the ignition switch from the lock cylinder and was able to turn on power but the car still wouldn't start it would just make a clicking noise. I know that may be because of the security bypass system. Is there any way to install a toggle switch instead of using the key?

  • Anonymous May 01, 2012

    Actually the problem is with my lock cylinder. In order for me to remove it I have to turn the key to the ON position in order for it to work but it won't let me turn it at all!

  • Anonymous May 01, 2012

    By the way I appreciate your help!

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Remove steering wheel and when you get to the ignition switch there is a small pin slide out and pull ignition switch that's how I did it in my Chevy
the auto parts store have a special wrench you need to remove the clip in the column find a store with loaners so you don't have to buy one

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on May 19, 2009

SOURCE: I have a Saturn SL2

Try the spare key, the key itself might have unaligned notches, this same thing happend to me, and the barrel itself might be fine

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Juan Rivera

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  • Posted on Apr 01, 2009

SOURCE: 1998 nissan altima gxe -ignition problem

Hi what is happening is that your turn off your car and left the wheels turned to one side and specially if your car is parke in a hill what you have to do is to force the steering wheel to the same direction of your wheels this will free up the ignition switch it is going to be hard let me tell you but it will work and this is why your shift don't work once you have the ignition switch free then your shift will work again

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  • Posted on Jun 25, 2009

SOURCE: ignition key fault

Inside where the key goes give a couple of squirts of three in one oil or similar. It may help.

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Jason Phillips

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  • Posted on Jul 07, 2009

SOURCE: I need to remove the ignition switch from a Ford

no, you have to have the switch in the on position, you either have to drill the ignition out (1/2" drillbit) or chisel the tumblers out of the cylinder... using excessive force may break the column...which is definatly way more $ than a lock cylinder. to be safe i would just use the chisel method... if you drill too far you will ruin the column also

Lyle D. Rowh

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  • Posted on Nov 16, 2009

SOURCE: 1994 Saturn SL2 Key stuck in ignition cylinder

Put some pressure on the steering wheel in one direction or the other this may take the pressure off the cylinder itself and allow you to do what is needed...hope this works.

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