The vehicle is a 1998 GMC Suburban with a 350 cid engine and auto trans, two barrel throttel body and 180000 miles. Check eingine light works but has not iluminated for these problems.
Engine dies at idle or after driving and taking my foot of the throttle,( slowing for a stop or turn). The engine seems to have great power when taking off at full throttle. It does not miss a beat and will chirp the tires when hitting 2nd, but at cruzing speeds, whether at 35 or 75 the engine will misfire occasionaly and backfire. Most of the time it just stumbles without backfiring. At idle the engine goes back and forth from 500 to 1200 rpm and will die at some point.
The tach is bouncing also. I know it is reacting to the engine rpm but it has it's own 2 to 4 count beat per second at idle and at highyway speed the tach will stay steady for a period, but say at 2500 rpms it will bounce to 3000 rpm. The greater percentage of time the engine will stumble when this happens but not always. These problems will happen through warm-up and operating tempeatures.
I do not have a code reader and cannot get the engine light to flash when I short the terminals on the plug to get any codes.
I found problems with the fuel pump and ditributor and replaced them. I've replace the egr valve, egr selonoid and checked function and voltage, all seems good. I checked function and voltage on the MAP, Oxygen sensor and temp sensor for the ECM, again all seems well.
I removed the throttle body, dismantled and clean it. I replaced all soft parts in the unit. I also replaced and set the throttle positioner and it seems to be functioning properly. I replaced the idle air control valve and checked voltage and function and it checked good, however while the engine was running I disconnected it and it did not affect the running of the engine. I did recheck the IAC operation and it checked OK.
This has been going on for about 6 months. It seems to run a bit better after replacing the fuel pump but still has problems. I have had it to a shop with no success.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Jack
It can be issue
with IAC( idle air control valve) causing the problem.
There
are many other possibilities causing these idle issues. Engine idles rough.
There
are few help links with solutions to troubleshoot such idle issues.
I
suggest you refer the link below and follow
its troubleshooting details:------
Click
the link below:-----
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http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/03/stumbling-and-stalling-at-idle-after.html
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http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/01/1999-ford-f-150-idles-rough-and-quits.html
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http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/01/engine-stumbles-coming-off-idle-when.html
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http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/erratic-idle-on-car.html
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Cold start problem and vehicle shudder around 2500 to
3500 rpms
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http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/12/low-idle-when-cold-out-side.html
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http://technoanswers.blogspot.com/2012/10/gmc-sonoma-stalls-and-idles-low.html
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http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/gmc-idle-air-control-iac-valve.html
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http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/10/1996-camry-intermittent-engine-failure.html
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http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/10/engine-quits-at-idle.html
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http://howtobyme.blogspot.com/2011/11/car-overheats-and-air-blows-hot-at-idle.html
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High
Idle Problem
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/10/high-idle-problem.html
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http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2012/01/while-stop-engine-idles-like-cylinder.html
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http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/idle-flair-is-noticed-on-car-rough-idle.html
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http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/high-rpm-in-neutral-inconsistant-high.html
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http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/03/vehicle-stumbling-at-idle-and-shows.html
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http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/03/rough-idlestaling-and-erratic-shifting.html
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http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2012/01/while-stop-engine-idles-like-cylinder.html
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These
details will help.
Thanks.
Car Stalls and idles low
http://technoanswers.blogspot.com/2012/10/gmc-sonoma-stalls-and-idles-low.html
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It can be issue
with IAC( idle air control valve) causing the problem.
There
are many other possibilities causing these idle issues. Engine idles rough.
There
are few help links with solutions to troubleshoot such idle issues.
I
suggest you refer the link below and follow
its troubleshooting details:------
Click
the link below:-----
-----------
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/03/stumbling-and-stalling-at-idle-after.html
------------
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/01/1999-ford-f-150-idles-rough-and-quits.html
---------
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/01/engine-stumbles-coming-off-idle-when.html
------------------
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/erratic-idle-on-car.html
-----------
Cold start problem and vehicle shudder around 2500 to
3500 rpms
----------
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/12/low-idle-when-cold-out-side.html
-----------
http://technoanswers.blogspot.com/2012/10/gmc-sonoma-stalls-and-idles-low.html
--------
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/gmc-idle-air-control-iac-valve.html
-------------
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/10/1996-camry-intermittent-engine-failure.html
------------
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/10/engine-quits-at-idle.html
-----------
http://howtobyme.blogspot.com/2011/11/car-overheats-and-air-blows-hot-at-idle.html
---------
High
Idle Problem
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/10/high-idle-problem.html
-------
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2012/01/while-stop-engine-idles-like-cylinder.html
---------
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/idle-flair-is-noticed-on-car-rough-idle.html
--------
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/high-rpm-in-neutral-inconsistant-high.html
-------
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/03/vehicle-stumbling-at-idle-and-shows.html
----------
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/03/rough-idlestaling-and-erratic-shifting.html
-----------
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2012/01/while-stop-engine-idles-like-cylinder.html
---------
These
details will help.
Thanks.
It can be issue
with IAC( idle air control valve) causing the problem.
There
are many other possibilities causing these idle issues. Engine idles rough.
There
are few help links with solutions to troubleshoot such idle issues.
I
suggest you refer the link below and follow
its troubleshooting details:------
Click
the link below:-----
-----------
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/03/stumbling-and-stalling-at-idle-after.html
------------
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/01/1999-ford-f-150-idles-rough-and-quits.html
---------
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/01/engine-stumbles-coming-off-idle-when.html
------------------
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/erratic-idle-on-car.html
-----------
Cold start problem and vehicle shudder around 2500 to
3500 rpms
----------
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/12/low-idle-when-cold-out-side.html
-----------
http://technoanswers.blogspot.com/2012/10/gmc-sonoma-stalls-and-idles-low.html
--------
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/gmc-idle-air-control-iac-valve.html
-------------
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/10/1996-camry-intermittent-engine-failure.html
------------
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/10/engine-quits-at-idle.html
-----------
http://howtobyme.blogspot.com/2011/11/car-overheats-and-air-blows-hot-at-idle.html
---------
High
Idle Problem
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/10/high-idle-problem.html
-------
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2012/01/while-stop-engine-idles-like-cylinder.html
---------
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/idle-flair-is-noticed-on-car-rough-idle.html
--------
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/high-rpm-in-neutral-inconsistant-high.html
-------
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/03/vehicle-stumbling-at-idle-and-shows.html
----------
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/03/rough-idlestaling-and-erratic-shifting.html
-----------
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2012/01/while-stop-engine-idles-like-cylinder.html
---------
These
details will help.
Thanks.
It can be issue
with IAC( idle air control valve) causing the problem.
There
are many other possibilities causing these idle issues. Engine idles rough.
There
are few help links with solutions to troubleshoot such idle issues.
I
suggest you refer the link below and follow
its troubleshooting details:------
Click
the link below:-----
-----------
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/03/stumbling-and-stalling-at-idle-after.html
------------
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/01/1999-ford-f-150-idles-rough-and-quits.html
---------
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/01/engine-stumbles-coming-off-idle-when.html
------------------
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/erratic-idle-on-car.html
-----------
Cold start problem and vehicle shudder around 2500 to
3500 rpms
----------
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/12/low-idle-when-cold-out-side.html
-----------
http://technoanswers.blogspot.com/2012/10/gmc-sonoma-stalls-and-idles-low.html
--------
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/gmc-idle-air-control-iac-valve.html
-------------
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/10/1996-camry-intermittent-engine-failure.html
------------
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/10/engine-quits-at-idle.html
-----------
http://howtobyme.blogspot.com/2011/11/car-overheats-and-air-blows-hot-at-idle.html
---------
High
Idle Problem
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/10/high-idle-problem.html
-------
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2012/01/while-stop-engine-idles-like-cylinder.html
---------
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/idle-flair-is-noticed-on-car-rough-idle.html
--------
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/high-rpm-in-neutral-inconsistant-high.html
-------
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/03/vehicle-stumbling-at-idle-and-shows.html
----------
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/03/rough-idlestaling-and-erratic-shifting.html
-----------
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2012/01/while-stop-engine-idles-like-cylinder.html
---------
These
details will help.
Thanks.
It can be issue
with IAC( idle air control valve) causing the problem.
There
are many other possibilities causing these idle issues. Engine idles rough.
There
are few help links with solutions to troubleshoot such idle issues.
I
suggest you refer the link below and follow
its troubleshooting details:------
Click
the link below:-----
-----------
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/03/stumbling-and-stalling-at-idle-after.html
------------
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/01/1999-ford-f-150-idles-rough-and-quits.html
---------
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/01/engine-stumbles-coming-off-idle-when.html
------------------
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/erratic-idle-on-car.html
-----------
Cold start problem and vehicle shudder around 2500 to
3500 rpms
----------
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/12/low-idle-when-cold-out-side.html
-----------
http://technoanswers.blogspot.com/2012/10/gmc-sonoma-stalls-and-idles-low.html
--------
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/gmc-idle-air-control-iac-valve.html
-------------
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/10/1996-camry-intermittent-engine-failure.html
------------
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/10/engine-quits-at-idle.html
-----------
http://howtobyme.blogspot.com/2011/11/car-overheats-and-air-blows-hot-at-idle.html
---------
High
Idle Problem
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/10/high-idle-problem.html
-------
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2012/01/while-stop-engine-idles-like-cylinder.html
---------
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/idle-flair-is-noticed-on-car-rough-idle.html
--------
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/high-rpm-in-neutral-inconsistant-high.html
-------
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/03/vehicle-stumbling-at-idle-and-shows.html
----------
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/03/rough-idlestaling-and-erratic-shifting.html
-----------
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2012/01/while-stop-engine-idles-like-cylinder.html
---------
These
details will help.
Thanks.
It can be issue
with IAC( idle air control valve) causing the problem.
There
are many other possibilities causing these idle issues.Engine idles rough.
There
are few help links with solutions to troubleshoot such idle issues.
I
suggest you refer the link below and follow
its troubleshooting details:------
Click
the link below:-----
Bad miss at idle?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.com/2012/01/bad-miss-at-idle.html
-----------
Stumbling and stalling at
idle after engine rebuild?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/03/stumbling-and-stalling-at-idle-after.html
------------
1999 Ford F-150 Idles rough and quits when gas
pedal is pressed less?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/01/1999-ford-f-150-idles-rough-and-quits.html
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Engine stumbles coming off idle when warm?
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/01/engine-stumbles-coming-off-idle-when.html
------------------
Erratic idle on car?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/erratic-idle-on-car.html
-----------
Cold start problem and vehicle shudder around 2500 to
3500 rpms
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/10/cold-start-problem-and-vehicle-shudder.html
----------
Low idle when cold out side?
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/12/low-idle-when-cold-out-side.html
-----------
GMC Sonoma Stalls and idles low
http://technoanswers.blogspot.com/2012/10/gmc-sonoma-stalls-and-idles-low.html
--------
GMC Idle Air Control (IAC)
Valve Replacing?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/gmc-idle-air-control-iac-valve.html
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1996 Camry intermittent
engine failure while idle?
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/10/1996-camry-intermittent-engine-failure.html
------------
Engine quits at idle?
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/10/engine-quits-at-idle.html
-----------
Car overheats and Air blows
hot at idle?
http://howtobyme.blogspot.com/2011/11/car-overheats-and-air-blows-hot-at-idle.html
---------
High
Idle Problem
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/10/high-idle-problem.html
-------
While stop engine idles
like cylinder missing?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2012/01/while-stop-engine-idles-like-cylinder.html
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Idle flair is noticed on car? Rough idle? car
will not idle? Erratic idle speed?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/idle-flair-is-noticed-on-car-rough-idle.html
--------
High rpm in neutral? Inconsistant high RPM in
neutral?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/high-rpm-in-neutral-inconsistant-high.html
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Vehicle stumbling at idle
and shows code 54?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/03/vehicle-stumbling-at-idle-and-shows.html
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Rough idle, staling and Erratic shifting?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/03/rough-idlestaling-and-erratic-shifting.html
-----------
While stop engine idles
like cylinder missing?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2012/01/while-stop-engine-idles-like-cylinder.html
---------
These
details will help.
Thanks.
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Oops, this is 1993 and not a 98
I have had the same problem. I have done alot of research and I find that alot of people have changed everything and still have the same problem they started with. I have ran accross many answers that say change the crankshaft position sensor and it should fix the problem.
Christina
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