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I have a 1993 geo storm.it has 1.6 lt 4 cylinder 5 speed.well it jumped time.bent the valves.so I got new used head.put new timing belt,water pump & spark plugs. I installed every thing just as book said to.got timing marks rite on.every thing.got fuel to cylinders,spark to plugs.and it dont even try to start.What am I doing wrong?PLEASE HELP!!!!!!

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Sounds to me you have timing off 180 degrees.

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Does it have compression?
Does it briefly run when an ether spray is used.
If there is a distributor do the plug wires go to the right plugs?

An engine needs a decent cranking speed, compression, timing, the correct amount of fuel and a good spark in order to run. You claim fuel, spark and timing...

When building an engine it is important to empty the hydraulic tappets of oil so they don't hold the valves open.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Dec 08, 2008

SOURCE: 1992 Geo Storm having problems.

you may have turned too many rmps and warped a piston which would cause the piston to actualy hit your valve, or while turning too many rpms you may have caused the valve to "float" which would mess it up

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 05, 2009

SOURCE: 1996 Geo Metro 4 cylinder

http://www.fixya.com/cars/t591786-1997_geo_metro_starting_problem


look at this post, this may help, I am having the same problem and am going to try to find one of these parts.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 18, 2009

SOURCE: I cannot figure out what the timing marks are.

there is a small mark on the cam pully that must point strait down to the mark on the crank shaft timing pully. the mark on the crank pully is a bit hard to see but it is a low spot on the inside area. also lines up with the keyway grove in the pully.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 11, 2009

SOURCE: SPEEDOMETER CABLE NEEDS TO BE REPLACED

There is no cable on the 93 Prizms.  The problem is one of two things, either the "vehicle speed sensor" or the instrument cluster itself.   I also have a 93, and the speedometer started acting up a while ago. Sometimes it would register 0 then it would spike up to 70 and stay there at highway speeds then back to 0 upon slowing.  I replaced both items from the junk yard.  The speed sensor at an auto parts store will run about $160, and a new cluster will cost A LOT more at the dealer! I first replaced the speed sensor with no luck ($5.00 at the junkyard) the same thing happened 0 or 70.   I replaced the cluster today ($13.99 at the junkyard).  That was it! Problem solved.  The cluster is EASY to replace, remove the 2 screws from the trim piece and remove trim.  Next, remove the 4 screws that hold the cluster in place; 2 at the very top (don't remove the ones just above the cover glass) and two at the bottom.  Pull one side of the cluster out; there are 3 plugs; squeeze the center of the plugs to release the clip and wiggle them free.  Connect the replacement cluster, but before screwing it in, do a check to make sure all the panel lights work.  I had a few that were burned out, so I used the old cluster lights to replace them.   I would try replacing the cluster first.  Good luck!

Anonymous

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  • Posted on May 12, 2009

SOURCE: how to set the timeing on 91 geo storm

The timing marks are located near the top of the crankshaft pulley on the plastic timing belt cover. There is a notch in the pulley to mark TDC (Top Dead Center)
Align the notch with the 0 mark on the plastic cover to set your base timing.
Ground the proper circuit on the ALDL connecter located under the dashboard somewhere under the steering wheel. Check the manual for the proper circuit to ground.
With the engine warm and the circuit grounded. Set the proper timing. Un-ground the circuit and you are done.

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Ok 1990 geo storm 1,6 litre dohc replaced water pump replaced 3 valves replaced head gaskets replaced timing belt car wont start any ideas?

90 Storm, must be in Canada, 1,6 (the comma tells me this)
the storm is a:
The car is really an Isuzu Impulse minus some of that car's more expensive features.
my guess is you drove the this 4EX1 engine until the cam belt slipped. yes> if yes you bent valves.????????????
so does compression exceed 150psi on all 4 cylinders now?
we use the cylinder leak down test in all DOHC .
if not , back to the drawing board.
if yes, the we check spark next, then try test fuel.
when did the engine last run , last week,month , year,?
who did your valves, a real machine shop or kid down the street.
a read shop pressure tests the head ,and warp checks it and
then makes sure the valves are ready for long service.
are the head bolts at 58 ft/lbs
did you use sealant on the 3 cap caps, per the FSM book.
if not , top end oiling will fail. and cams wrecked.

the 1.6l DOHC has no HLA's
the lash on valves must be checked, and this is corrected with SHIMS.

a pro machine shop does the for you,did they:?
when rebuilding engines, its best to read the factory service manual first. FSM so you know the special steps just for this engine.
ISUZU engine it is.



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1.6L Twin Camshaft Engine
  1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
  2. Remove the cylinder head or valve cover.
  3. Position the No. 1 cylinder at TDC on its compression stroke.
The notch on the crankshaft pulley should align with the 0 degrees mark on the timing gear case. Make sure the rocker arms on the No. 1 cylinder are loose and the rockers on the No. 4 cylinder are tight. If not, turn the crankshaft one complete revolution and align the marks again.
  1. Using a feeler gauge, measure the clearance between the cam lobe and the selective shim on the intake and exhaust valves on the No. 1 cylinder, then the intake valves on the No. 2 cylinder and the exhaust valves on the No. 3 cylinder. Note readings.
  2. Rotate the crankshaft 360 degrees. Using a feeler gauge, measure the clearance between the cam lobe and the selective shim on the intake and exhaust valves on the No. 4 cylinder, then the intake valves on the No. 3 cylinder and the exhaust valves on the No. 2 cylinder. Note readings.
  3. The valve clearance obtained on the exhaust valves should be between 0.008-0.012 in. (0.20-0.30mm). If not, replace the selective shim by turning the camshaft lobe downward and installing tool J-38413-2 or J-38413-3 (valve lash spring spacer) between the camshaft journal and the cam lobe next to the selective shim. Turn cam lobe upward and remove the selective shim. Install new shim using the selective shim chart.
The rear camshaft bearing caps must be removed to remove the selective shim.
  1. The valve clearance obtained on the intake valves should be between 0.004-0.008 in. (0.10-0.20mm). If not, replace the selective shim by turning the camshaft lobe downward and installing tool J-38413-2 or J-38413-3 between the camshaft journal and the cam lobe next to the selective shim. Turn cam lobe upward and remove the selective shim. Install new shim using the selective shim chart.
  2. When the adjustment is completed, install the cylinder head covers and connect the battery negative cable. Start the engine and check for leaks.
end fsm quote.

see those 2 marks, and crank must be at TDC. mark first.

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Spark to cylinder but appears to be dead new head does not run right

Was the same fault there before you changed the cylinder head? If so, that would point to piston problems on cylinder No4.

Are you able to do a compression test on the engine? If there's piston/ring trouble on the 4th cylinder that could cause a misfire because of poor compression.

The other thing that springs to mind is that there's something amiss with the valve clearances on cylinder No 4.

I'm not familiar with your car - does it have an overhead camshaft? Unfortunately when refitting an overhead camshaft after a rebuild, some owners have managed to bend a valve. This usually happens because the engine has been turned during disassembly/rebuild and the timing marks have not been aligned when refitting the camshaft.

This results in a valve in contact with a piston and when the camshaft is fitted and torqued down the valve becomes bent.

I think your problem may lie in either a bent valve or incorrect valve clearances.
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Determine why I have zero compression on all four cylinders

Have you put each cylinder at top dead center on compression
stroke & done a cylinder leak down test BEFORE ever starting
the motor,& is the timing belt still on & timed correctly?

Compression is relative to many things & not much use these
days,you got it or you don't
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Does 1992 geo storm gsi have timing belt or timing chain

great question. but confuses <STORM (an ISUZU) with METRO, Swift.
ill assume the STORM is correct and the 1.8l too.
that engine is a ISUZU Real engine,
and is called the
4XF1 ,see facts below.
now the cam answer.

in the uSA this car is the GSI model with 1.8L
see last link for your answer. below. GM official page.
you can also see your cam in the 2nd link below.
the engine is INTERFERENCE. so if the belt snaps, it bends valves
just like all HONDAs do.\
http://www.agcoauto.com/content/List_Of_Interference_Engines


wiki facts.
The larger 1.8 L 4XF1 DOHC replaced the 4XE1 in North America and produces 140 hp (104 kW) and 125 ft/lb (169 Nm) of torque. This engine was used in the 1992-1993 Geo Storm GSi, in the 1992 Isuzu Stylus RS, and in the Asuna Sunfire. In Japan it was installed in the Isuzu Piazza, where it had 150 PS (110 kW).

http://www.gmpartsdepartment.com/parts/1992/Geo/Storm/2Plus2%20GSi?siteid=214533&vehicleid=73792&diagram=F200040&diagramCallOut=13


rockauto shows the belt. see it?

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1177017,parttype,5759,a,www.google.com%2BSearch%2Bfor%2B1992%2BISUZU%2BSTYLUS%2B1.8L%2BL4%2BEngine%2BCrankshaft%2BSeal
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Timing marks on 1.6 dual over head cam

the geo storm, 1.6 DOHC
the FSM cover it, so does alldata.com
hint 2, its an Isuzu engine.
its really (makes information easier to find )
Isuzu:
4XE1-UW a DOHC 16-valve engine with 130 hp (97 kW)
he DOHC engine was used in the 1990-1991 Isuzu Impulse XS, in the 1990-1991 Isuzu Stylus XS, in the 1990-1991 Geo Storm GSi, and the M100 Lotus Elan.
all that off the wiki,,
all cars rare here.....

1st google hit
http://www.robietherobot.com/storm/torquespecs.htm

This engine is interference type
so when timed, with a new belt
roll engine by hand, with spark plugs out.? do pistons hit valves.
yes, stop, the cam is timed wrong.
no, do a compression test on #1, if pass, do all 4. 150psi min.w.o.t.
wide open throttle
a better test, is a leak down test. x4. by hand.
these acts of kindness to the engine, saves most engines.

if the leak down fails, the timing is wrong, or the valves are already
bent..
dont use a fleabay china belt, bet a GATES belt. (they last)
setting the tension is very important to a full life .



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When my timing belt broke on my 92 geo storm all of my coolant spilled out underneath the car. why would this happen?

busted head, timing belt left valves open while pistons continued
up into valves and bent valves result busted head.
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How do i replace a water pump on a 1993 geo

1 disconnect battery ground cable
2 drain cooling system
3 on models with a/c, proceed as follows:

a discharge a/c system
b loosen upper and lower compressor bolts and remove compressor drive belt
c remove a/c line from top of radiator shroud

4 remove water pump drive belt
5 remove reservoir tank from radiator bracket
6 remove radiator shroud and fan/clutch from vehicle
7 remove waterpump pulley from waterpump
8 remove timing tensioner and timing belt
9 remove dipstick tube
10 remove alternator mounting bracket at water pump
11 remove water pump mounting bolts and water pump
12 reverse procedure to install, using new gasket and rubber seal
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My 04 chevy aveo just had the timing belt and water pump replaced, and then the mechanic said 2 of the 4 cylinders were bad and the vlaves were bent. does that happen?

I just wanna know how was it possible for him to know the (hidden under the cylinder head cover) valves were bent while only changing the timing belt and water pump ( both located at the side of the engine).
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New timing belt keeps getting loose when it cools down

yes you can get defective auto tenioners.Chage ASAP.
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