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Teresa Norris Posted on Feb 05, 2018
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How to check to see if you have a broken wire before replacing PCM

Replaced all 6 coils and plugs and now have a puffing sound coming from the intake, It is still running rough with code P0352, P0353 and P0354. Tried taking the connectors off the coils and all but on made a difference, would like to know if it could be a broken wire before replacing the PCM.

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These codes are for coils 2 3 4 they are all bank 1 if you are standing in front of the vehicle looking at the motor bank 1 is the passenger side now disconnect the battery cables and then go to the connectors by the master cylinder unplug them and clean them also look for moisture inside the connectors they could be loose use alcohol and clean and let dry and also the other connectorside coming from the fire wall at the same location and inside the fender by the door you did not list what size engine you have but following what I'm telling you will cover all the bases here also check the connections to the computer making sure no pins are bent and no water inside also check the wire harness wires from those coils and for antifreeze or oil in those cylinders pull those spark plugs to inspect for fluids and for cracked insulators or cracked boots I know you said you changed the coils and was that complete with boots and are all new?I'm not there so I have to ask I'm really suspicious of fluid or water in those cylinders are your inner fender splash guards there did this happen after a heavy rain driving through puddles or the carwash? If so that's the problem those cylinders have water in them and it's shorting the firing + voltage to the - ground of the block please post back with more info and progress like I stated that I'm suspicious of this because it's 3 coils in a row the computer has separate pins for each coil if you have a 4.6 engine Vin code W I have an electrical diagram for a 2005 crown victoria 4.6 (W)they are the same but I don't think you need it check those 2/3/4 cylinders and plugs good luck stephen

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steve noel

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SOURCE: 2003 vw jetta gl 2.0 have codes p0351,p0352 and p0353

p0351- ignition coil A primary or secondary fault
p0352- ,, ,,,,,, ,,,,, B ,,,,, ,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,
p0353 - ,,,,,,,,,,,,, C,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,, .,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
you may have a problem with yuor ingnition system

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 05, 2010

SOURCE: i have a 2003 f150 supercab v8 and i am getting

bad ground connection for coils or harness is bad for coils

Testimonial: "I will have to investigate any know problem areas"

Jonah Oneal

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  • Posted on Sep 28, 2010

SOURCE: have 2005 tribute it quit

HAVE VECHICLE SCANNED FOR PCM FAULT CODES. IT CONTROLS COILS FIRING.

dannydoesita

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  • Posted on Oct 19, 2011

SOURCE: codes p0340 p0353 p0352 p0351 p1391

Kevin, can you give me a little more to work with? I would like year, make and model of your vehicle along with any other symtoms you may have experienced. Please get back to me with this information, and don't start replacing parts that you may not need. Waiting on your response.

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Is the engine misfiring presently? If not, the problem is likely intermittent. Try wiggle testing the wiring at the #6 coil and along the wiring harness to the PCM. If manipulating the wiring causes the misfire to surface, repair the wiring problem. Check for poor connection at the coil connector. Verify the harness isn't misrouted or chafing on anything. Repair as necessary

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