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Anonymous Posted on Dec 07, 2011

95 f-350 brake pedal fade

Replaced rotors, calipers, pads, shoes and m/c. Machined rotors and drums. Bled system including rabs valve. Have good pedal until I start engine, then it goes to floor.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jun 15, 2008

SOURCE: 94 jeep grand cherokee laredo brake problem

Hi there!

Check for leaks at the slave cylinders and flexi hoses.

After several attempts of losing pressure - check the brake fluid level in the master.

If you arn't losing any fluid, You've got a damaged seal in the Master cylinder, or are drawing air in due to improper adjustment (excess travel) of slave cylinders.

Are you trying this with engine running? - How does this affect it (using servo assist)

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Dec 01, 2008

SOURCE: 1989 Ford F350 2 wheel drive dually 460 ci gas motor

5 Inspect Brake Fluid Type Brake fluid loss or contamination grey_line.gif 10 Inspect Master Cylinder (Brake System) Worn or leaking brake master cylinder. grey_line.gif 11 Inspect Brake Power Booster Damaged booster vacuum line/check valve, or diaphram

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 18, 2009

SOURCE: fading brake pedal

Perfect well at this point i would say that tha abs valve is bypassing fluid. If you can un hook the line that comes into the abs valve and plug it and try and bleed the system where you cap the line going into the abs valve. If you get a good pedal after pluging the line going into the abs valve this tells me that the abs valve is bypassing fluid give it a try i have ran into this a few time and the abs valve has been bad. Also can you rate this sluton also i do hits on my own free time thanks good luck

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Jason Phillips

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  • Posted on May 19, 2009

SOURCE: Brakes

check to see you haven't mounted the calipers on the wrong sides. bleeders should be on top not the bottom. RABS block is on the framerail near the drivers door

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jul 01, 2009

SOURCE: ABS alarming after I replaced rear brakes shims, bled brakes etc.

try rebleeding the brakes. any air whatsoever will set off the abs light sometimes it takes a few times to get it all out even though they feel good. also make sure the fluid is full that will also set off the light.

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I have a 23 t bucket and i cant get a brake pedal.when i bought it had very little brake so i replaced rear shoes and cylinders,front pads and calipers,all new lines and the master cylinder

Once you have bled the air from the brake lines,clamp off the front brake hoses carefully.Does the pedal feel better now?
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keep bleeding the system,if u didnt bench bleed the master cylinder,you will need to do that.Its a must
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you start the engine, then vacuum causes it to move
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