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99 Suburban solenoid gets hot with just the positive connected to it. Plus without the ign wire connected as soon as i connect the pos cable back to the batt the starter turns without evan a key in the ign. Help

  • twu3ser30 Sep 16, 2011

    Original problem was the starter turning when i would connect the positive post. I removed the IGN wire and it still turned the starter. I replaced the solenoid and the same outcome except now when i remove the IGN wire the starter dosent turn. Now on that starter for the 99 suburban you cant cross wires because theres only 2 to connect, the IGN wire and the Pos wire and the Positive has a guide that fits only to the one terminal on the solenoid and the other thick wire is connected already straight from the solenoid to the starter.

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You may have the wires backwards or you have the IGN wire on the wrong post

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