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Anonymous Posted on Aug 10, 2011

I HAVE POWER EVERYWHERE YET MY IGNITION WONT CRANK STARTER, NOW I GO DIRECT AND BY-PASS STARTER STARTS. THOUGH I HAVE NO SPARK COMMING FROM COIL.

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Probably a bad starter. Try tapping on the starter with a hammer.

  • Anonymous Aug 10, 2011

    sorry didn' read far enough.

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Naturally if the pump is defective have a repair shop do the repair . Its dangerous and a real pain.
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IN YOUR CASE I BELIEVE YOU NEED A NEW BATTERY UNLESS THIS ONE IS FAIRLY NEW.
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